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Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:09:39 AM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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I haven't changed any settings (that i can recall) in this particular project however for some reason it is doing the following:

 

When I put any view on "Show Complete - Existing" the NEW window locations are showing as solid white, when clicking on the solid white, it's showing as the infill panels that would be created to fill in the hole if the window was existing and being demolished.

 

Does that make sense?

 

So I've got an existing wall, I'm inserting a new window but in the elevation I want to just see the wall (no window), it's showing the window location as solid white. And it does it in every view I set as on the phase "Show Complete - Existing" so I gather its a phasing issue.

 

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Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:30:26 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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Phases in Revit are hard to understand.  Read my thread here:


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Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:33:10 AM | WWHub

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Quoting WWHub from 2015-08-31 07:30:26

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Phases in Revit are hard to understand.  Read my thread here:

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Thanks for that but doesn't really answer me question.

All I'm trying to do is show a EXISTING view of my building, as an example I'll just say its a plain wall with nothing in it so that's all I want to see.

On this plain wall, I would like to insert a window as part of the PROPOSED works, but for some reason in every view where I've set the phase to "Show Complete - Existing", it's showing the cutout of the new window.

It should be incredibly easy haha and this has never happened on any other project, hence why I think I must've accidently changed something.


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Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:38:44 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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So you have said your view is Show Complete and the view is Existing Phase.

 

Yet you say in this view, you want to place a new window that will be in your 'proposed' phase which means it is new.  So place it, then change the properties of that window from existing to your new (proposed) phase.  The window will disappear as it should.


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Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:13:09 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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OK, just to save you wasting your time haha. I'm not a beginner with Revit, I use it all day every day for 8 hours. I understand how phasing works and that the window SHOULDN'T be there because it's in New Construction.

But just to clarify, the actual window isn't showing (the normal graphic), it's just a white infill wall where the new window is, I've never had this happen before. It's extremely odd.


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Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:06:04 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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As far as I can tell, Revit has always worked this way.   I tested with a 2011 file - the earliest I still have on my machine.

 


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Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:49:05 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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It can be tricky to explain the conditions and I'm curious to re-create this scenerio.

Please provide the following:

- Screen capture of your Phases dialog box

- Screen capture of your Phase filters dialog box

(-Screen capture of the view properties)

- Phase of the view

- Phase filter of the view

- Phase Created of the wall

- Phase Demolished of the wall

- Phase Created of the window

- Phase Demolished of the window

There may also be other contributing factors that have nothing to do with phases.

Just gathering this info might flush out your problem. . . . 

If you could delete and purge the project file down small enough to post here that would help trouble shoot.

 


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Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:36:13 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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Ok I fixed this problem by moving the view range 'cut plane' down by 12" : )

 

It's partly because based on the view settings the wall gets filled in where the window opening is, even though the window hasn't happened yet and windows and walls have different view range behaviour.

 

Good tip to keep in mind. 


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Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:34:49 PM | dgcad

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Quoting dgcad from 2015-09-02 13:36:13

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Ok I fixed this problem by moving the view range 'cut plane' down by 12" : )

 

It's partly because based on the view settings the wall gets filled in where the window opening is, even though the window hasn't happened yet and windows and walls have different view range behaviour.

 

Good tip to keep in mind. 

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Thanks for checking in.

 

Moving the view range cut plane down? The view I'm seeing this is in elevation though, or am I missing something?

 

Also, I can't provide screenshots etc. (Well I don't think I should) as this is a work project.

 


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Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:35:57 PM | WWHub

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Quoting WWHub from 2015-09-02 09:06:04

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As far as I can tell, Revit has always worked this way.   I tested with a 2011 file - the earliest I still have on my machine.

 

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... It's never happened to me before.

 

You're saying in any Revit you can't simply view an existing elevation without any proposed works? That can't be right.


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Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:36:04 PM | Phasing Issue - Proposed Elements showing solid white

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By setting your view correctly, you can show existing as is except any walls that have future openings will show the limits of that future opening,  A line across the walls at the opening ends in plan.


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