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Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:02:26 AM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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I made wall sweeps for a residence, but upon putting windows only some of my wall sweeps cuts for my window. This is happening when I have kept the option of 'Cuts wall' for wall sweep.When I choose the option of 'Cut by inserts' for wall sweep, it cuts through but it also cuts through my frames.

I have also posted 2 images to show what problem I'm facing. 



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Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:08:51 AM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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It looks like your opening cut on your window is not working parametrically to match the size of the window frame/pane etc.

Did you make the window yourself and if so could this be problem?

 


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Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:20:55 PM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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Yes, the window shown here is a window made by me, but I don't think it is because of that as the same thing happens when I load a default window of revit. (if you can see the pic, there's louvred window on the right side, that window is taken from the revit library itself)

I got around the problem by making the opening cut aligned with the outer frame and then choosing 'cut by inserts' option for the wall sweep. It will interrupt with my 2D layout in the plan, but right now, since I'm working on 3D it will be fine.

But I would really like to know if there's any better way to do this.



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Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:29:22 PM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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Replace opening cut with a void for the window to cut the wall. Add another void for a trim to cut the siding. Make solids first and then turn them to voids, otherwise they cut the window and the trim geometry. Tick 'cut with void when loaded' and use cut tool in the project to cut the siding. Don't forget to tie void geometry to the window/trim size parameters/ref. planes.



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Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:44:52 AM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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@pijpiwo Thanks! will try that!


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Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:54:45 AM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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@pijpiwo, I tried your way, but it isn't working. It just won't cut through the wall sweeps. Sad


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Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:02:14 AM | Wall Sweep Overlaps window frames and cuts (some not all)

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Looking at your original images I don't see a problem.   The sweeps are cut by the window.  The trim wich is outside of that opening is sometimes proud of the wall and sometimes the wall is proud.  Your sweeps are obvoiusly positive insteadof negative and the trim is thus on the wrong plane.

 

I really think you will find that using wall sweeps for this is a poor process.  If your roof had a gable end, you would discover why very quickly.   The sweeps will not cut at an angle.   You are far better off just using a material then detail elements in more detailed views.  

 

Modeling siding like this is tedious and will quickly overload your model. If you think you must model, then do something like what I posted here:  http://www.revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=17944  But pay attention to where your trim is.


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Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:09:40 AM | nafsi

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Quoting nafsi from 2015-06-22 03:54:45

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@pijpiwo, I tried your way, but it isn't working. It just won't cut through the wall sweeps. Sad

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Your workflow is incorrect then. Describe what you’re doing step by step and upload your window family, so we can troubleshoot, or follow WW's advise.


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