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Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:31:47 AM | Architect using Revit while MEP use AutoCAD in the same office

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Hello all,

We're trying to finally start using Revit in producing CD's after we have used it for Conceptual Design for a while.

The MEP portion of the office are still on AutoCAD while the Architects are trying to use Revit now.  The architects would do their CD's in Revit, and export their floor plans to AutoCAD for the MEP to use as xrefs.  Do you think it would work this way? Or do you recommend we all use the same software (either Revit or CAD). Has anyone been in our same position while transitioning to Revit?

Any words of wisdom? Smile

Thanks


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Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:37:45 AM | Architect using Revit while MEP use AutoCAD in the same office

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YThe process you are using will work but it is not as good as using all Revit.  Get to all Revit ASAP.


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Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:59:00 PM | Architect using Revit while MEP use AutoCAD in the same office

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Thanks a lot for your comment. I was just talking with one of our mechanical engineer, he believes that Revit for him would be even more work and responsibility as he has to show all actual sizes, heights, etc..for new and for any existing pipes or ducts, etc.. which means more time in survey or in preparing the CD's, while in AutoCAD he only shows lines/sizes, and the contractor is responsible about coordination in the field. I have no clue of how to argue about this as I've never used the MEP portion in Revit. Is there somebody who can share his/her point of view from a mechanical engineer or electrical engineer view?


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Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:53:05 PM | Architect using Revit while MEP use AutoCAD in the same office

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What your M Engineer is complaining about is exactly where we are going - with or without him.  Revit's 3D modeling has given us an opprtunity to coordinate on paper rather than by re-doing in the field.   At a recent AIA meeting here at a new hospital building, the A, E's & contractors showed how using full modeling reduced their re-working by something like 75% and the savings payed for considerable upgrades in the building.

 

When I worked as a draftsman doing M/P in the 70's, we documented the height and location of all M/P objects.  Maybe that was just the quality of the work that engineering firm did but I think this information has been missing for far too long from the MEP documentation.

 

Should we be compensated for this work?  Of course!  Will this be the 'standard of care'?  Yep!


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