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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:52:25 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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I am doing 4 similar apartment houses in Revit2014 and as they are quite similar then most of the details match eachother. Is there a way to copy of use the same callouts (details) to use already done drawings so I would not need to do it 4 times. 

 

One thing I was thinking was to just make it in autocad, export dwgs out from Revit and then detail and later on through them back into revit again. 

 

Any other way? Copying annotations would not work that great


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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:21:24 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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There are a couple of different methods I can think of for this- you'll have to research each of them to see which would work best.

First, there's Insert Views from File

  1. Click Insert tabImport panelInsert from File drop-downInsert Views from File.

Or you can read through "Reusing Details From Callouts" in your help.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2014/ENU/?guid=GUID-BDF36DAA-703E-422F-A136-156D41E28F24 

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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:33:13 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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 The Insert view from file only allows me to copy drafting views and schedules.

I need to copy Callouts. The 2d version of it almost works.One thing I need it Cut profile tool to be copied over and it cannot do this.

When I try to do "Save to new file" I get an error "Must be addressed  in order to continue", unable to copy elements from file.

 



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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:11:03 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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Revit's callouts is model driven unless you create a 2D view so there is no way to do what you are asking.  

 

Without knowing how your project is assembled here are a couple of options.

  1. If the callout view can be printed from the original file and then included in a similar file, then just create the callout and place on a fake sheet with the original file's sheet number and view number(not to be printed).
  2. Use the 'freeze drawing' add in to make a 2D copy of the original detail and import that file into your project following the process you already know.

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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:04:25 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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I did not quite understand everything you meant.

1 option.  What do you mean by printed. I cannot print the detail from House A(original file where the detail is being done) to House B folder as it will give me wrong data into the titlebox? Could you please be more specific. 

2. option does not work for me as I'm a nonsubscriber.

 

A bit more odd idea was to make pictures of the callout within revit (the tool that brings them into the Rendering folder by default). 

I simply do not like the idea of that

 

Just to expalin what I am doing right now. We have 5 almost identical houses, 90% of the details are 100% match.  Sections are being made in 4 places and callouts are being made out of places which need to be designed. They are detailed with detail items and cut profiles. Later on they are being tagged and DIM lines and elevations are being added. Simpliest solution  as I am not that skilled and no1 to ask in my tiny office. 

WW, I really appriciate your dedication to helping people (Y)


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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:09:31 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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Option 2 it is then.

The freeze drawing is just an automatic way of exporting the view to CAD then re-imprting it as a drafting detail.   So - just do that manually.


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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:20:15 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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We are trying to get out from the AutoCad age and move on to Revit. But am I right to say that it would be smarter to do the details in AutoCad. Exporting the files from Revit to Cad messes up the linesstyles and so on... 

 

I also found a tool which saves the detail into .rvt file (separates everything connected to the detail and creates its own small revit project file)

Could you tell me what is the aim for it? I do not really see any use for it? Culd it somehow be used for this purpose?


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Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:27:14 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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It is smarter to do the details in Revit! NOT CAD!

 

You are right about CAD imports messing up Revit.  I and others have posts here on how to clean up and revitize CAD imports.


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Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:32:01 AM | Copying callouts across the projects

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Not that I want to argue with you but which are the main benefits in detailing in revit vs exporting in dwg and detailing there.

On the main folder I get an original which is nice but on other 4 buildings it would make no difference. 

Even if the geometry changes then I still need to make them into dwg and put in my other 4 projects.

just few main points please?

They did it that (export into dwg and detail in ACad) way in the last project and I need to justify my choice. What are the benefits, pure drawing speed right now is def. slower(ofc it would improve over time).


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Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:09:56 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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You will find that Revit is far easier to do 2D drafting views than in CAD.   Not right away but the sooner you make a clean break, the easier it becomes.

 

2D drafting details are completely portable between Revit projects and can be stored in your library.   We prefer to place them in a library project where they are easy to find and appropriately named like "door details, window details" etc.

 

Importing CAD is problematic, ineffecient and really increases files size.


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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:58:26 AM | Copying callouts across the projects

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If you do not mind then I'd ask few more questions about this topic.

So it is prefered to draw most common details (RC wall element joints etc) in Drafting view and reuse them later? But in my case where the details ar a bit more complicated, should i use the callouts or where would you draw the line yourself? 

With drafting view i need to take measurements and everything is done just as we've done in ACad (possible to make mistakes because there is no underlay).

With using sections/callouts I only can use it once (ofc i can export it in dwg->back to Revit - messes up drawings)

Where have u spicified the line yourself?

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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:47:06 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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Not sure I understand all of your questions.

  • A common detail that is used in multiple projects is best done as a drafting detail and imported as needed
  • Complex, unique details that can rely on model driven geometry are best done as model view callouts.   Obviously these will NEVER be used on other projects because they change with the geometry.   But guess what.....  you can still copy detail elements and notes from a stock drafting view that is similar and paste those into your model view.
  • For model driven details, learn to use as much of the model as possible.   That means learn how to use the View tab - cut profile tool.   With that you can modify things like layers of walls... wrapping drywall into window heads etc.   And learn to use the linework tool.   Don't just use 'dumb' cad process of adding filled and masking regions.
  • "...Where have u spicified the line yourself?..."  << I don't know what you mean.

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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:37:21 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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In this situation the best case is to make things out of lines and simplier detail families and always overchecking the measurements which means the drafting has absolutely no connection to the model itself. 

Is there a way to get the geometry of the detail (walls and beams) in the drafting view? 

I start feeling that every time I step one step forward, I move 3 steps backwards. :/

So basically model driven details are not that common and it still is based on simple lines?


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Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:59:11 PM | Copying callouts across the projects

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I don't think you are reading what I write!

 

When you are asking about details that need to match model geometry and as I said:  USE A MODEL VIEW!

 

The majority of our details are model view details and only used in that project.  Drafting views are only for 'stock' / standard details.  Details that don't need to model geometry.   A door frame in a 8" CMU wall is the same detail in every project so that is a drafting detail.  A door fram in an exterior brick/insulation/metal stud/ drywall wall may have a similar drafting detail that can be modified or just copied into a model detail view.


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