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Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:46:25 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Hi there.

 

I'm currently using Revit 2015 on Windows 7.

 

Just wondering has anyone else noticed that their 3D walls aren't joining properly in Revit 2015 ?

 

We are having issues where walls aren't joining at corners, intersections, etc properly and we have never encountered this problem with any previous versions of Revit. (refer to attached screenshots)

 

I know that it can't be to do with any of the wall properties as we have carried over our standard Revit template file which we used in Revit 14, 13, 12, 11 ... etc beforehand and we have never had this issue.

 

We haven't changed how we insert 3D walls into the project either.

 

Are there new settings in Revit 2015 which is causing this problem ?

 

I am absolutely baffled and can't work out any reason why this is happening.

 

Any advice or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.



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Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:21:19 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Updates are installed - correct?

 

I don't see these problems happening.  Different wall heights can cause these problems sometimes.  You do try the edit wall joins tool?


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Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:27:28 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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We have installed the latest Revit 2015 update and still having this same issue.

 

We thought the same thing about the wall heights and levels they are attached to so I played around with assigning the walls to different heights and making them all the same height and nothing changed.

 

I just tried using the wall joining tool like you suggested, same thing nothing changed.

 

The only way I've figured out how to get around this is by "disallowing" a join of one of the walls and then dragging it out to line up with the outer face of the other wall, and then manually using the join geometry tool so they join properly in plan.

 

Unless there is maybe another Revit update I'm not aware of that would resolve this issue ?

 

Thanks for your help so far

 

 

Ps. I have just checked and there is a Revit 2015 update 4 which is out for download, we had only installed update 3.

I am just downloading this now and hopefully this might fix the glitch.  I'll keep you updated

 

Thanks again



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Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:16:36 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Can you open the model and delete everything except for these walls/ purge then upload it.   I absolutly don't see any of this problem when I try to recreate it.   And we have not yet installed R2 (Update 4)



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Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:38:11 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Maybe it has to do with the wall center lines meeting exactly at the intersection. This has nothing to do with 2015 and more with how you modeled it?


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Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:48:46 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Centerlines don't matter....

Tabbing throug the wall joins options (if used correctly) should have fixed the issue.   If you have never used the wall joins tool then read how to use it in your help. http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2014/ENU/?guid=GUID-19EAF7A9-331F-4271-94CC-43B76B13011E


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Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:54:12 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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When i get this problem , I 'disallow' joins and play with it a bit.. resolves the issues 'sometimes'. Wall joins are for butt/miter? i use them rarely but maybe the solution lies in there. I'd give a shot


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Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:09:02 AM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Thanks for the suggestions guys.

 

Since the update (Revit 2015 Update 4) we haven't had these wall joining issues anymore.

 

Still not sure why it happened but the main thing is it's resolved.

 

I'll keep you updated should anything change.

 

Thanks again.


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Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:53:22 AM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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In a bad case of irony, since I'd let you know that the walls were joining properly after the installation of the Revit update 4, they have now started to not join properly again.

 

Still no ideas ?

 

UPDATE: Refer to attached image. This is starting to get really frustrating now, I have never seen revit behave in this way before.



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Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:07:47 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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There is other things going on here that we don't know about - probably some other wall causing this issue.

 

We have a user here that had a wall based towell bar that they wanted on the end of their vanity.  So they hid a very thin wall in the vanity group to host that bar.   This caused a whole lot of issues.  Poor choices lead to problems that are hard to find.


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Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:49:19 AM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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Thanks WWHub,

 

I plan to spend some time over the christmas break going through and cleaning up all our families.

 

Hopefully the solution lies in there and it will resolve this issue.

 

I'll keep you updated.

 

Thanks again


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Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:56:51 PM | Wall Joining Issue Revit 2015

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I had simmilar situation.

The wall join was obstructed by room separation line that was hidden in a view... however it was interacting in some weird way with wall joins causing them to join just teh core of teh wall but not insulation layers.

My advice : check if you don't have room separation line buggering about the join - I lost my lunch money over it


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