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Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:30:01 AM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Hi everyone,

We've decided to split the documentation in two separate files, one for the model and annotation and one just for the sheets.

I came across a few issues with that configuration and would like to hear your opinion and suggestions about it.

1) I have to setup views twice, one on each file and that can be very frustrating, especially for sections and elevations as the process is visual and they don't sit exactly at the same spot

2) The views are linked and that can't be done for drafting views (the biggest problem so far). I definitely wouldn't like to have the drafting views sitting my themselves in the sheet file.

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot, I appreciate any help.


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Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:56:06 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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DON'T DO THIS!   Absolutly no reason to split the file.

 

I could use other terms but I reserve the right to use them later if you continue with this idea.


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Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:24:48 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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I agree there is no reason do do what you are suggesting


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Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:19:49 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Hahaha... really?

Soon there will be 4 people working on this project and I splitted it to keep file sizes down and avoid clashes/errors when synchronising.

Was it still a bad idea?


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Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:59:23 AM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Yes - That was a bad idea.  Four people is nothing.

 

When you work, don't checkout worksets.  Simply learn to work in different views and save to central at your reminder intervals or more often if asked to relinquish something you borrowed by working on it.  

 

So you don't step on each other's toes to much, we each have our own 'working' plan views for each floor plan.   These are seperate from the sheeted views. 

 


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Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:52:36 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Thanks a lot, WWHub. I think I'll have to keep that in mind for the next project. It might be a bit too late to revert back to one file now.

Btw, when you say 'Dont checkout worksets', do you mean opening just the ones you need and leave the other ones closed?

Thanks for replying.


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Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:04:55 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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You can open worksets which is realy just loading them.  Checking out worksets means you own them and lock eveyone else out of that workset.  If you open the collaborate tab / worksets, you can see who owns a workset and who are borrowers. 


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Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:35:25 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Great, thanks again WWHub. Very helpful!  :-)


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Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 5:25:10 AM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Before saying the big "No"to this arrangement, I think that we shall analysis the pros and cons of this approach. 

I have been practicing this approach, sheet separate from model file, since 2011 in 4 different size of projects, a house, office blocks and hotel. 

Before I read this thread , I thought I was the only one practice in this approach. Since someone is interested in this appraoch, I think I can share my experience for the last 3 yrs in this approach.

The Pros:

- Take out around 60MB to 100MB out from the model file 

- You can organise two teams to perfrom asisgned task based on thier strength as the same, eg. one team creating viewport, doing sheet layout and annotation, other team can focus on modeling without the worry of messing up the views in Model file.

- You can reuse/keep the sheet layout in the Sheet file via swapping Model file, I think it is very handy while the project is still in Development stage and the use of Design Option is too complicated situation.

- Unified arrangement while the project is separated individaul model based on disciplines/or other project arrangement. Becuase each Model file is a Linked Model in Sheet File.

The Cons:

- No CL mark while dimensioning in Sheet file

- Filter and schedule is not strainght forwards

- Limited model editing in Sheet file

- Need maunal reload linked Model file in Sheet file

 

In my opinion, it is not a perfect arrangement, but it is adoptiable approach in certain situation.


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Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:54:45 PM | Model file vs. Sheet file

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Thanks, Peak. I appreciate the input.


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