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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:17:00 PM | Sheet Underlay

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It would be great if you could underlay a sheet like you can with views. That way you could quickly align views / levels / grids on sheet B-Z to the same place on sheet A by just clicking and dragging the views. You could also move and line the viewport title number and buble in the same mannor.

Currently it is quite a hastle to use reference planes / detail lines to copy / paste to each sheet followed by picking and moving views by points and having to zoom in/out.


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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:49:39 PM | Sheet Underlay

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The Guide Grid is not good enough?

View tab->Sheet Composition panel->Guide Grid


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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:58:07 PM | Sheet Underlay

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Actually this is a good feature that I didn't know existed. However, the precision in still and issue. My boss is a rather stickler for plans to lign up exactly ontop of eachother so that when you flip through a pdf set the plans arn't jumping around on the page. The align / snap feature of views works great on a single sheet - it would just be great if this couple be expanded to allow you to do it across multiple sheets.


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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:20:41 PM | Sheet Underlay

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Guide Grid can be used on multiple sheets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zu2PnaOdAs


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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:42:48 PM | Sheet Underlay

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Ya, I understand all that. But in the end it seems to be more of the same problem that I was originally discussing. Let's say for example you have 4 plans per sheet (and 4 viewport title /number and bubbles). You either have to manufacture one grid which proportions magically hit every benchmark of the 8 elements that you want to align - or you have to create 8 separate guide grids for one sheet.


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Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:59:02 PM | Sheet Underlay

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But these 8 elements supposed to be aligned to the grid, not grid to the elements. Sure, it would easier if the grid lines are marked, so it’s easier to find the right intersection on different sheets, but still, it is doable and I think it’s working fine.



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Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:09:52 PM | Sheet Underlay

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Thanks again for your reply. In an ideal world this works great when you have plenty of open / blank sheet space - but when the drawings are very tight it's not always possible to align to a uniform grid.

I do like certain aspects of the guide grid, I really do. But if I can make a suggestion - add this to the wish list - it would be that the guides could be used more like on Adobe Illustrator - or even like the Revit Curtain Wall System Grids. I.E. you can start with a uniform grid and then you can add / delete grid lines and move them separate from the uniform spacing. For our example we would have 8 interesections at manually set locations that would eliminate the problem you mentioned in your last post about the need for "market grid lines".


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Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:45:43 PM | Sheet Underlay

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It took us 6-8 years to get the guide grids we now have.... I don't think your wish will ever happen but you can create your own titlesheets with these grids.  The family could have invisible lines that only work when you roll over them or it could be visible lines that you turn on/off or swap the whole family out for a plain one.


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Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:13:25 PM | Sheet Underlay

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Maybe you guys have some unique conditions that the GG is not doing its job for you, I don’t know, so far so good for me, but the idea with the GG in the title block family is a good one. I like it a lot. GG lines can be marked so the intersection can be easily found between sheets and with the visibility parameter set up…, it’s a keeper. Nice tip WW.


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Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:56:41 PM | WWHub

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Quoting WWHub from 2014-09-12 09:45:43

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The family could have invisible lines that only work when you roll over them or it could be visible lines that you turn on/off or swap the whole family out for a plain one.

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So, I made a grid in the title block family as per WW suggestion, and I love it! Finally I was able to mark the grid so the grid line intersections can be identified. Also, I made visibility parameters for even and odd lines if the grid is too busy, and vertical and horizontal shift type parameters to be able to move my grid around if needed.

 

Thanks WW for the inspiration Smile



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