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exavier820

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Project is a 4 story residential aparment building with roughly 800 beds. 

we are utilizing groups for each typical apartment unit, there are about 8 different unit types. 

the floor assembly serves as the ceiling of the unit below. the roof will serve as the ceiling for the 4th floor unit. This works great with the exception of 1 thing. 

- the top of wall in the groups varies depending on the floor level - shown in attachment. 

ceiling heights are supposed to be 9'-0" on 1 and 2 . 8'-6" on 3 and 4

pay no attention to the ridiculous floor to floor heights.

any creative solutions? (without creating additional groups per floor)

thanks!

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If they are different then you will need different groups, well 2 groups, (1) for 1&2 and (1) for 3&4

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Hopefully, you are not placing exterior walls in your goups.   Exterior walls are better off in the model.

We do our interior walls to the floor above with a top offset of the floor thickness.  That should work for you no matter what the floor to floor is.

Are you really gouping by floor rather than by type?  That would be ineffecient.  In the past, we found that left hand / right hand had to be seperate groups because mirrored groups were problematic.   I don't know if that is still true.

BTW - Be careful about including items in groups that are scheduled because editing their properties is very time consuming.  We ungroup one set of these items for scheduling purposes (uncheck show all instances) and we don't then edit the properties of the items still in the groups.

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exavier820

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Our setup is with 2 models -

Core - which contains all the groups of the typical apartment units. (yes, we are grouping by apartment type 1 bed, 2 bed etc) we had issues in the past having everything in one model due to file size and people not being careful of what they are selecting and then moving. 

Shell - contains our common spaces, vertical circulation, corridors (floors, ceilings)

the floors have individual worksets, due to the massive file size, we found it was less painful to navigate the model  if we could turn off the other floors. 

as far as mirroring the groups, its worked well for us in the past on a similar project and its still going well. 

you're correct, its extermely time consuming (and painfull), but we are required to label each individual door and window, as the client uses it for building maintenance. over 1000 windows.... 

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mirrored groups

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Wall schedule by apartment unit

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Ceiling heights in schedules

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Model Pattern in Mirrored Groups

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Tagging multpile ceiling heights in the same plan

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