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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:08:04 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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I have beams shown on a plan view that I am working on in Revit;

Right now the beams show up as 2 grey lines (this is in fine visual style, so it is showing the actual beam)

I want them to show up as just a center line (because it is a structural drawing), I need to keep it in fine to show all the hatch etc (I know when I turn it to course it will show up as just a line)

Is there a way to make my beams center lines in plan view?

I've attached a picture (the other grey stuff is an underlay of an arch. drawing, but the grey beams are actual revit objects) 

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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:12:47 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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VG - Change the detail level just for beams.


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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:30:36 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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I couldn't find just beams in VG, so I changed struc. framing to course; but that just hid the beams altogether. 

I moved the cut plan up so that it was in the beam (just to see what would happen), and when I changed framing to course it worked, and I got lines for beams. The only problem with that is that the cut plan is too high for the doors (of course).

Is there a way that I can have the affect of the cut plan through the beam (so that line will show up), but still have the cut plan at the right level? 

Or was the beams disappearing not supposed to happen?

Thanks again, we're on the right track at least


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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:46:05 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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Your plan view should cut at the top of your beams.  Turn off the floor if you have to.  If you have the view set to architectural or coordination, you will see the wall hatches.  And if you set the framing to coarse, you will see single lines.


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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:31:33 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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When I cut at the top of the beams, it does make them show up the way I want, the problem is then that my door openings are gone because they cut plan is above them.

Is there a way to have both the beams show up (as if I cut through them), but have my door openings be on the plan still?

Typically (generally not in revit...in autocad or whatever/ regular practice) we have the cut plan set at 4' above finished floor, but we also have the framing above plotted on the drawing (thats how structural sets have always been done). It seems like this isn't an option in revit at all.

Thanks for you help so far (again the beams now show up, but the door openings don't/ nor does the hatch in some of the walls that are below the cut)


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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:52:54 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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Obviously, walls below the cut will not hatch and why would you want them hatched?   This is a floor framing plan and typically the cut is at the top of the steel.  So bearing walls obviously get cut but not walls that end below. 

 

You can underlay the architectural plan (ghosted) to see the doors.


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Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:01:03 PM | Visual Style of Beams in Plan View

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Sure I could underlay it in, if it was 2d

I have the architects revit file ghosted in mine (thats the whole point of revit is to coordinate trades), and therefore where ever I make the cut in my model, that same cut is made in the architects model = still above the doors.

If it was a simple steel building it would be no problem, but I have load bearing block walls/ conc. (these require lintels and footings...so why would I not want them to be shown?) Have you ever done structural drawings before? Do you make two different plans? One for lintels, one for beams? How/why do you not show load bearing walls in a structural set (or even just block walls...even if not load bearing require lintels and footings)

Revit just can't do it, which is weird; this is something that I always did in cad (just like you said, if I had the arch. drawing I'd underlay it in my cad file and dim it down, while I drew my framing over top... but no it is a model in a model and therefore cut plans are all at the same level)

Thanks anyways boss


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