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Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:42:44 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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Autodesk SEEK guidelines recommend using Revit 2009 and if you are creating Lighting fixtures for example, they seem to recommend using Revit MEP 2009 as stated here:

RECOMMENDED REVIT RELEASE AND DISCIPLINE FOR CONTENT CREATION

Note: All sample family and project files were created based on the Revit Platform 2009 release; therefore, they can’t be opened in earlier versions of Revit.

RECOMMENDATION: To ensure that content is available to the largest number of end users, create the content using Autodesk Revit 2009. Content created in release 2009 can also be used in later versions of Revit. If the content requires functionality available in a later release, then create the content in that release of Revit.

Use the Revit product (Revit Architecture, Revit MEP, or Revit Structure) that is appropriate for the content you are creating, for example, for a Door family, use Revit Architecture, for an Air Handling Unit, use Revit MEP. If the content crosses disciplines, for example, a lighting fixture or plumbing fixture, use the product that has the most requirements, in this case Revit MEP. RMCSG

The thing is that in the lighting fixtures I want to create, I need to include Type catalogs and it looks like this feature of Exporting Family types was apparently first introduced in Revit Architecture 2013. Well, I cannot really tell if it was first introduced in Revit Architecture 2013 or maybe it already existed in Revit MEP 2009 or another. Since in 2013, Revit became just one and MEP was part of the same Revit 2013, I am not sure if this feature of exporting family types also existed in older versions like Revit MEP 2009. Does anybody know if these feature existed in these older versions of MEP?

I am trying to create my families in the oldest possible version of Revit so that I am ok with the SEEK guidelines. Also, should I create in MEP if I am trying to do Lighting fixtures or Revit Architecture is ok? 


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Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:51:51 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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Type catalogs were available long before 2009.

Read "If the content crosses disciplines, for example, a lighting fixture or plumbing fixture, use the product that has the most requirements, in this case Revit MEP."

The combined Revit is no different then the stand alone portions for each discipline.  In other words, a family created for MEP 2009 will work in the combined 2014.

 

Your problem will be that Revit only allows licensing for current minus 3 for a total of 4 issues.  So you can have 2014, 13, 12, 11 and 10 on your machine.  So 2009 may not be available to you. 

 

You need to verify what information is available in 2014/13 families vs 2010... your earliest I think.


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Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:47:10 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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But whhat is better to use, Revit MEP or Revit Architecture for a ñighting fixture that will have materials to use it on renderings and all the appropriate .ies files?

The SEEK Guidelines recommend to use the older possible Revit version. I've seen many lighting fixtures on SEEK that are in 2011 format. Is there a particular reason for that, or doing them in 2010 or even 2009 is the same, or better?


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Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:57:57 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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Hellooooo.... As they said "..., in this case Revit MEP."

 

Are you building this just to look good or will it be true BIM and have all the BIM information?  ARchitects can place either family but if the connections aren't there, the family is no good to the engineer.

 

I believe I answered you what issue question if you would read my earlier answer.......


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Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:56:33 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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Sorry, it looks like my post was submitted twice.

I am building this as real BIM families with a big amount of information. I will have to create type catalogs in txt format in order to create the different types inside the familes. Then I will be provided with the .ies files.

Should I use 2010 or 2011?

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Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:56:32 AM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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The responsibility is yours.... As I wrote earlier "You need to verify what information is available in 2014/13 families vs 2010... your earliest I think...."  Do your own research!


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Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:37:02 PM | What Revit version to use when creating families for SEEK?

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One of the things I researched was that Lighting fixtures need to have REVIT CONNECTORS and that feature is only available in Revit MEP or after Revit 2013. This way an electrical engineer can connect them to a MEP system. So, that is probably why SEEK guidelines recommend doing them in Revit MEP. What I cannot tell is if the Lighting fixtures I can find in SEEK were done with Revit MEP or just plain Revit Architecture. For some odd reason, they were all done in 2011 and not in older versions...


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