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Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:01:45 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Hello,

I have a project which utilizes a stacked wall to create a 2x6 continuous, exterior wood stud wall with stucco finish above a brick wainscot.

The interior walls are a combination of 2x4 and 2x6 studs with sheetrock on both sides.

As you can see by the attached screen shot, the interior walls wrap the sheet rock just fine with both the Stucco, and Brick exterior walls when they are not stacked (green circles).  But when the interior wall intersects with the stacked wall condition, the sheetrock does not wrap (red circles).

Any suggestions?

I've read through a few posts, but did not see anything which addressed this specifically.  If there's already an answer somewhere, kindly link me to it.

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JP

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Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:27:06 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Do you know that you can click on your stacked wall and then click break up.. Stacked walls are nice to get started but we usually use this breakup once we have the heights mainly where we want them. Try that and see if it fixes your problem. 

 


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Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:51:57 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Ah, cool.  I didn't know about the "Breakup" option (lots of jokes to be made there!)

 

It didn't solve my problem, but it did point out what was happening.  The interior wall was cleaning up with the higher stucco wall, but since the wainscot portion of the stacked wall was below the cut plane, it was not cleaning up with the lower portion.

 

I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to resolve this, but as least I know what's going on!  Thanks!

 

*Edit*  Putting the cut plane closer to the floor resolves the issue... but I suspect it's going to cause problems later with countertops, and fixtures, etc displaying correctly.



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Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:49:19 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Would using a plan region work at those specific spots? Probably not ideal, but it'll fix it.


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Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:19:14 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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I have found that splitting a wall horizontally at joins where walls are not the same height will allow for correct joining.


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Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:46:14 AM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Hi Jpbernier,

Please check your wall structure material naming in property.

I have found that if the names of those walls are different, that line will be shown at the intersection, not because the wall is stacked.

If the structure framing for that exterior stacked wall named "Wood stud", the interior wall named "Dimension lumber", then the line will be shown. Try to use the same name for your exterior stacked wall and the interior wall, to see what happens.

Please let us know.

 



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Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:13:42 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Thanks for the suggestions folks.

I tried the 'Break Apart' thing, but it leaves a horizontal line around the inside that shows up in all of the secitons which I have to to hide in every view.  Not a deal-breaker necessarily, but not ideal either.  I can see where that WILL come in handy in the future tho.

Doing a Plan Region seems like it will just create more obstacles as the project develops?  IDK, I'm not very well versed wtih those, maybe I just don't know what I'm really doing with them.

 

I checked the spelling.  I was confident the naming convention was consistent (it is) because the walls were just copy --> of each other.  I didn't re-create the whole wall, rather just built on the previous version.

 

So now I have this interesting condition to show you (attached).  All wall components are identical, the only difference is the height of the brick veneer.  With a 3'-6" cut plane, the 4' wainscot version cleans up perfectly and displays exactly how I want it to in plan.  I can understand why the brick cut pattern doesn't show in the other two versions because it's below the cut plane obviously... but in the 3' version, it isn't cutting the interior (studs & gyp bd) part of the wall?  In the 2' version, it cuts the studs and gyp bd, but doesn't clean up?  What the...?!

 

When I change the cut plane, I get the same results, but on different walls.  For example, if I change the cut plane to 2'-6", then the 3' wainscot looks like the 4' version (great!), but then the 2' version changes to look like the 3' version in this image.  Honestly, I think it may have a demon, but shhh don't tell my wife, that kind of stuff freaks her out!  :-)



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Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:29:11 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Join the walls in an elevation view and the horizontal line will go away in all the views if the material is the same and not offset.

 

The 2' & 3' views will not join correctly because the wall height are not the same as we discussed previously.   There is a short wall problem in Revit and that's why the 3' will not show the drywall cut.  << Hard to explan ....

 

If this is really what you ahve then you might look at using regions in your wall rather than stacked walls.

 


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Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:34:05 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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WW, thanks for the quick reply, and the suggestion on Regions.  I'll give them a shot and see what I can do.  Thanks again!



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Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:10:02 PM | Sheet rock won't wrap at stacked wall conditions

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Hi Jpbernier,

 

 

I was not talking about spelling.

Please see the attached file. 

  1. Two exterior stacked walls are identical; except the Material of the “STRUCTURE” in the properties, the left “SOFTWOOD, LUMBER”, the right “WOOD”. Both exterior walls have 1 foot high concrete wall below the wooden wall.

  2. Two interior walls are identical; the Material of the “STRUCTURE” in the properties both are “SOFTWOOD, LUMBER”.

Revit treated the two walls on the left as with the same type since they have the same Material; the right as two types, even the only different was the Material. Thus, the line added at the intersection.

Hope that makes sense.



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