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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:34:03 AM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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Hi all,

Im working on a project where we are detailing the builidng at 1 to 20 inserting 2D elements onto the view over the 3D. There seems to be problems when people accidently move the 3D model eg a window in their view when annotating.

 

Is there a way so you can not make any ajustments to the 3d model when you are detailing in a view? Its very easily done when you are tracing over windows/ walls etc in a Detail view.


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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:38:59 AM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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By the way. I dont want to lock objects in the whole model. Just that particular view.


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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:38:03 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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I would not lock - locking can really bog down the model and it is not view specific.  Have your people turn off press and drag in the lower right corner.  That is typically a problem.  Otherwise, they really need to learn the correct process.


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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:27:17 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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We are using the correct process it's just drawing over a 3d model is a bit curse. Ok accuracy is powerful in Revit but so is mistakes.

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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:04:37 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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"....it's just drawing over a 3d model is a bit curse..."  << Why are you doing this?  In lower scale views like wall sections, we add very little detail elements and let the model elements do the job.  That means we use edit cut profile a lot in those views.  In large scale detail views, we still use as much edit cut profile as we can and only add detail elements to replace items like doors and windows.  Then we turn off that model category or hide the element in that view but again - we use as much of the model as we can.

 

Perhaps your users are locking 2D elements to model elements then moving the 2D - not a good process.


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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:00:36 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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No we use and do what you mentioned including turning off elements even so you can not see if something is moved in 3d. We do s you mentioned and put detailed components in the view. We have been doing thus for ages a d our conclusion is. It's curse. We have 8 years using ths and the problem lies in new users and old users.

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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:40:09 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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I'm not sure you exactly read what I posted.  I said we put some detail components in detail views.....<< Very little if we can help it. 

 

Obviously your users pay very little attention to their selection filter.  That can be taught but I still think part of the problem is a CAD process. .  We have had users that believe they have to use a lot of filled regions or items like gyp bd families to do their details rather than modeling with correct materials and using edit cut profile.


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Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:23:28 PM | Detailing & Anotating in a view. Can you lock the 3D elements before you start

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That's. bullshit. There's no point modelling anything unless you ca see it. If your a a architect then u want to detail at 1 to 5 or 10. Your not going to model curse at that scale. Believe me I worked on. The largest revit project in the worldly at the moment in Australia for the government . A lot of it is a waste of time.

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