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Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:33:58 PM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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I just noticed that the standard REVIT Single Flush Door elevation swing lines are incorrect, refer to picture...Normally, the point of the arrow is where the door handle is...and the two ends of the arrow is where the hinges are - well in Australia at least.

Is there a way to overight the REVIT family WITHOUT doing a save-as? So that each time i start a new project the standard door type is correct?

In the end i just turned off the Door Swing lines through Visual Graphics....but it's annoying that the Standard REVIT door shows the wrong swing path.



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Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:09:19 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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Really?? the path on the left is correct in Korea..(also in US I suppose)

If it's not in AUS (though it's hard to believe), the file you have to fix is not only the door family file but also the project template file. Basic general families are already loaded in project template that you choose when you start the new project.

Reload the door file you fixed to the template you want to use, and overwrite the template file. Problem solved. :-)



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Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:43:01 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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Hmmm yeah, i was trying to avoid that way. Mainly because I will have to update the templates on everyone's C Drive.

Also, speaking to my German friend...he uses the same method as us. Must vary from country to country *shrugs*


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Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:03:27 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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ofcouse you have to copy the corrected file to everyones hdd if necessary.

there's no way like 'automatic file copy' i think. :-)


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Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:08:21 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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or place correct files in shared drive. this can make your work easy i guess.



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Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:28:13 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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WOW! after so much years, i just noticed. Infact I had assumed that the meeting points of the lines where the hinges are. Totally didnt think it could be the handles. Anyways, I just confirmed now, after an arguement with my collegue on the swing direction. 

Its easy to correct, just edit the family.


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Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:53:46 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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In the US, the standard has always been like Revit shows it.  The 'arrow' points to the hinge side.

 

Started drawing in 1963.......


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Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:01:30 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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Things might be different in Australia, but in the US, the "arrow" indicates the hinge side of the door.


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Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:14:28 PM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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Haha,

after working in NZ for two years, just figured i've been doing it wrong.

AUS/NZ 1100 standard states door knob is where lines meet.

Found a info that they've changed to other (normal) way in 2008, but it created confusion so they changed it back in 2011.

Like, now it is not confusing...


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Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:46:57 PM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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(I'm also in Australia)

 

I've seen some drawings where they actually join the swing lines at the height of the door knob as well. So it doesn't just meet in the centre as the AUS/NZ 1100 states.

 

I was surprised to find out the US and some other countries have a different standard though!


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Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 3:02:40 PM | WWHub

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Quoting WWHub from 2015-04-09 08:53:46

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In the US, the standard has always been like Revit shows it.  The 'arrow' points to the hinge side.

 

Started drawing in 1963.......

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I agree with WWHub - been working in industry in three different regions of US since 1999 and always drew the swing lines as Revit does - arrow toward hinge side, and the lines open toward the opening side <> makes since to me.  I've never been corrected on this, and do not plan to change.

I found this thread after a search because I recently got shop drawings showing the wrong way >< (as pennyiscute prefers) and proceeded to correct their drawings with the correct swing indication <>  Smile


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Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:55:45 PM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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This is helpful information. I did this and some of my door architraves lifted off the ground.. Any reason why it did that? (Pics attached).

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Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:27:34 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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It could be an error in the design of the family, otherwise it could be someting that cuts that but is currently hidden.


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Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:20:44 AM | bristone

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Quoting bristone from 2018-03-02 15:02:40

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Quoting WWHub from 2015-04-09 08:53:46

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In the US, the standard has always been like Revit shows it.  The 'arrow' points to the hinge side.

 

Started drawing in 1963.......

"

I agree with WWHub - been working in industry in three different regions of US since 1999 and always drew the swing lines as Revit does - arrow toward hinge side, and the lines open toward the opening side <> makes since to me.  I've never been corrected on this, and do not plan to change.

I found this thread after a search because I recently got shop drawings showing the wrong way >< (as pennyiscute prefers) and proceeded to correct their drawings with the correct swing indication <>  Smile

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Revit draws it the way Americans signify the operability/hinge. A double door is drawn like this <>, and not like this ><. It was explained to me that the arrow points toward the hinge/pivot, also drawn that way in plan, meaning the point of the arrow symbolizes the pivot in plan. However in Denmark and in Portugal they draw it the other way, and it was explained to me that the arrow points to where the door is floating, thus the two arms of the arrow are holding up the door, just like the hinge does. They both make sense, I wonder where the divergence occured.


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Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:43:59 AM | REVIT 2014: Door Elevations - swing lines are shown backwards?

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Personally I like <>.

Otherwise the double-leaf doors look so "SAD".  J

 

 

 


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