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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:13:46 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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I apologize in advance for the long post but we are experiencing an issue that seems common enough that Revit should offer a solution.

Assume a scenario where we are designing an apartment building that has 30 floors (all slightly different) but has a number of bathrooms that are the same or simliar. We want to do callouts for the bathrooms on one floor and "simliar" tags on all the other floors. Creating a new referenced callout for every "similar" instance in the project is really not a viable option.

If we do a detail callout of the original bathroom plan, we can create one referenced callout on the floor above and copy/paste it to all subsequent floors. This would be a great solution but because detail plans will not allow us to add interior elevation marks (required) to the original bathroom callout it appears we cannot use detail callouts. 

If we do a floor plan callout of the original bathroom plan, elevation marks work fine but after creating a reference callout on the floor above it seems it cannot be copied to to subsequent floors without changing the reference information.

Our solution thus far has been to create a drafted detail group of a fake referenced callout and copy it to all the floors. While it saves countless hours of work, its obviously an imperfect solution.


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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:40:22 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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Do a floor plan callout.  On the next level use a referenced callout detail.  Now copy that anywhere.


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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:41:18 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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We have tried this. When I draw a callout detail referenced to a floor plan callout, Revit turns the referenced callout detail into a floor plan callout. Same problem applies with the reference information improperly referenced.



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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:14:50 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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What are you doing?  With reference other view, there is ONLY one view!  When you pick the reference it goes back to the initial callout.  Reference other view is not just a callout head change, it is a process.  Start the callout, pick reference other view and pick the original view from the pulldown list.


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Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:23:42 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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Thanks for your quick responses. I believe I am doing exactly what you're saying. The issue occurs when I try to copy to other floors:

On Floor 2 I make a floor plan callout: View > Callout > Floor Plan > (draw callout)

On Floor 3 I make referenced callout: View > Callout > Detail View > Reference other view > (select view from drop down)

I copy to Floor 4 & 5: Copy > Paste > Align to slected views

See attached image. You can see that it works fine when I draw the reference on the third floor but gets screwy when copied to 4 & 5.

For some reason, the floor plan callouts that are pasted do not retain the referenced callout. They automatially change the plan referenced in the callout for on each copied floor. This does not occur when the original callout is a detail callout BUT I need to be able to put interior elevations on the original call out. This only available when the original callout is a floor plan callout.



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Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:34:12 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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I'm sorry, your absolutly right.  It doesn't work in 14 and it doesn't work in 12.

 

I could have sworn that I used to do this.



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Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:52:53 PM | Plan Callouts: Detail View Vs. Floor Plan Views

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Thanks for your efforts. Our current solution drafting/copying detail groups of "referenced" callouts is a viable work around. Its just not very "smart".


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