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. Thanks Tom, There are many free REVIT Training Video Tutorials at http://www.dgcad.com No login or registration required. Try them out and then go on to a subscription etc. if you see value. Even suggest a video if you choose. DGCAD.

Uppdate: CADclips is now offering full online and download access to all 1000+ REVIT videos for a mere $39. Download an keep the videos for yourself. Pretty good deal > http://cadclips.com/Index.htm

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Hello Allstate45:

I am a Autodesk certified Revit2008, 2009 Trainer. I do Revit Training over the internet using GoToMeeting. I would be glad to give you a free half hour intro. You can reach me thru:

Info@Revit-Training.com

http://www.Revit-Training.com

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A couple points and not to be jaded.

1. I signed up for the training listed above (with the elaborate graphics) twice and each time the training never became available and I was never contacted to be notified the cancelling of the class. Has anyone (none related) been successful after handing over their name and email address? On their 'Contact' page all they give you is an email address and a bunch of fluff. Have a look at this contact us web page > http://www.will2play.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=30 No phone number, no location, nothing 'people related'. I am not a big fan of any web site that will not let you contact them or actually tell you who they are. Where I come from we have a saying for this "Big Hat ... No cattle"

2. Thanks for the endorsement TK. I honestly do appreciate it. But you may get some 'mixed reviews' on the value of investing your $900 in 3 day reseller training : ) and I used to be that trainer for 15 years. You actually nailed it when you said 'YOUR EMPLOYER' dished out the money. AH HA !! That's not 'your money' and it's a 'right-off' and business expense for them. Either that or it's free so you buy more software from them. You may feel differently writing the check yourself.

3. Also just a note, CADclips video training is not 'Online' you download all 1000+ REVIT videos for $89 and keep them as your own, FOREVER. As well CADclips offers live Online training via GOTOmeeting.

4. Sorry but to be an 'Autodesk Certified Anything' doesn't actually carry alot of weight. Not to say it means the opposite but I played that 'certified' game for many years. Sure it never hurts as long as you have the cattle to back up the hat, right.

5. Even the Will2play member to this site isn't actually a person but an 'anonymous subscriber' just like their web site. Can the real Will2play person please step forward?

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I think it's $89 for 30 days...at least that's what it says on the website.

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We've recently started offering interactive online training. Courses are modeled after the classroom training that resellers offer (ie fundamentals, advanced, etc).  Each topic consists of a video tutorial with clickable supplemental information, including data sets to be used with a trial version of the software. There are optional practice tests at the end of each section to help solidify what you've learned.

Here is a link to our Online Revit Training page with a video and more details.  These courses are more expensive than Daryl's CAD Clips courses listed here (see posts above for more info on those) - $525 USD per user.  The $525 gets you six months access to the course.  We currently have Revit Arch Fundamentals, but will be adding Advanced and Expert later this summer. Feel free to contact us with any questions to see if this is a good fit for your training needs.

Have a great summer everyone!

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CAD Training Online is the only Premier Autodesk Authorized Training Center that offers instructor led online training for all Autodesk programs.  Our training is not recorded videos, nor is it a WebEx presentation where you simply watch the instructor and then go away to struggle on your own with the intricacies of Revit.

Rather, we provide you with the training materials (shipped to your home or office), we provide a dedicated instructor for you alone, we connect via desktop sharing session, offer post training support and also provide you with a 30 day use of the software.

Because we run the classes on one one you get the full attention of an Autodesk Authorized Instructor the entire time you are attending class.  In addition, because we run the class just for you we can schedule it for anytime you need.  Need weekend training?  How about evenings?  No worries, were there when you need us.

All of our classes come with a 100% satisfaction guarantee to eliminate any worries that you might have.

Our 13 Autodesk Certified Experts have trained over 4,000 students over the past two years.  All of them have over a decade of in the classroom experience and have worked for the top design firms and top Autodesk resellers in North America.

You can review our offerings on our site: www.cadtrainingonline.com or you can contact us directly at 757-619-6561.

Don't get suckered into some cheap video training that will put you to sleep unless that is your favored method to learning.  Why not join the thousands who have participated in the next best thing to being in a classroom?

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Hey Rick,

Another training option is always nice. A couple observations as an ex-reseller trainer of 15 years and a few questions if I may.

As far as REVIT goes your web site advertises 'with current discounts' introduction, intermediate and advanced REVIT training adds up to $2315 US dollars (795 + 895 + 625) which is pretty much on par with the same type of reseller training that has been available for over 20 years, but delivered online instead of in person. 

Q. What is the minimum number of students you require before a class will run on schedule?

 Q. What is considered a 'reasonable amount of time' between an individual signing up and the training being completed?

Q. What happens if you don't get the minimum amount of students?

Q. For those who have attended reseller training in the past, is this the same format as normal reseller type training but without the lab? If not please provide details.

Q. How do you meet student quotas while accomodating the global time zones when scheduling classes?

Q. Other than the fact that people can attend from the office or home what does this offer beyond local reseller type training available pretty much everywhere? The prices are the same.

Q. Does your research show that attending online training in 3 - 8 hour consecutive days is optimum for the customer 's retention?

Q. What does your research show happens to the students learning process after the 3 days is up?

Q. How do you accomodate the wide variety of individual needs and expectation to the training?

Q. Do your prices include the cost of the 'audio' and video connection required to attend the training?

Q. Is there courseware provided and if so is the cost included? If not how much ?

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Thank you for the questions regarding CAD Training Online's training.  I'd be glad to help provide you and the other RevitCity readers with the answers you are looking for.

First, please let me explain where I am coming from.  Until a year ago I worked for one Autodesk reseller for over 18 years as a trainer, consultant and ultimately in training management.  I was the National Training Director for the last 6 of those 18 years and during that time I pioneered several methods for providing remote training to many of the 4,500 students that frequented our 19 training centers each year.

I presented at Autodesk University six years ago to several hundred people on how to create the recorded videos that eveyone seems to be putting out there today.  We found these types of videos to be good for learning tips or tricks, but not to learning entire complex design programs like Revit or AutoCAD.  Adult learners simply don't learn that way.  We decided to not persue recorded video training due to our feeling that is was a dis-service to our students.  Around the same time Autodesk dropped their video training program and laid off or reorganized nearly their entire staff dedicated to training videos that were produced to sell.  Avatech and Autodesk both found that it just doesn't work for students to learn by watching a video.  Adult learners need far more than that. 

When I left Avatech Solutions I began a new Autodesk Authorized Training Center that is dedicated to providing instructor led training both in our training center and over the internet.  Our focus is on providing the world's best certified Autodesk Experts with at least 10 years of real world experience in the field and in the classroom.

Thanks to most of the Autodesk resellers laying of up to 90% of their training staff it has been a boon to CAD Training Online for hiring the best instructors the industry has to offer.  Now, after nearly a year of technical development, in addition to the best instructors anywhere, CAD Training Online has a far superior way of bringing them to the students' desktops.

Now, to answer your questions:

Q. What is the minimum number of students you require before a class will run on schedule?

A. We need a minimum of one student to conduct training.  That's right, one.  Our class average is 4 students; however, we still hold at least 6 one student classes each month.  Our methods for training via a virtual classroom allow us to circumvent the normal financial restraints placed up resellers and training centers that require minimum numbers of students in order to meet their quotas.

Q. What is considered a 'reasonable amount of time' between an individual signing up and the training being completed?

A.  Our students typically begin their training within seven days of registering for a class.  The real limitation is typically in the student's schedule (their boss not letting them attend sooner) and in our getting the printed Autodesk authorized training materials to them.  Sometimes we overnight the materials to them because they are in a rush, but that is not normal.  I think the longest wait for a class so far was two weeks.  We had to ship numerous manuals to Australia and shipping any quicker would have been too expensive for us to justify.

Q. What happens if you don't get the minimum amount of students?

A. We don't have a minimum number of students so this question doesn't matter to us or to our students.  Our business model is such that it does not matter how many students attend our classes.  In fact, one student is sometimes the best number of students to have in a class.  Why?  Because we are not in this business to make as much money as possible.  As dedicated training professionals we are in the business of training to ensure that people receive the quality training that they expect and deserve.  We love to teach only one person because as certified instructors we can focus on that individual's unique needs.  Isn't that what this all about any way?

Q. For those who have attended reseller training in the past, is this the same format as normal reseller type training but without the lab? If not please provide details.

A. Our online training is 100% hands-on lab based virtual classroom training.  With a few exceptions, the students who attend the training receive almost the same experience as classroom based computer lab training.

Those exceptions are:

• No need to travel to the training center.  We come to you.  There are no associated travel expenses and no down time from the office other than the actual time the students are in the class or working in the virtual labs on their own after class time.

• Our fragmented schedules don't require them to attend training all day, every day.  We break the training up into half day sessions so the students can retain more and so their employers can keep their employees busy while remaining productive for the other part of the day.

• Students do miss out on sitting next to someone in the classroom.  (Maybe that's a good thing for some students?) While the students can still talk normally to each other in our virtual classes and interact 100% with the instructor, they can't physically lean over and look at someone else's monitor to see what they are doing.  With that said, our instructor can share any given student's monitor with the entire class so that everyone can benefit from what that particular student has done.

Q. How do you meet student quotas while accomodating the global time zones when scheduling classes?

A. Again, thanks to our revolutionary training business model we don't have student quotas, so this is not an issue to us.  We have instructors all over the world to provide our global training to students in their regional time zones.  In fact, some of our North American instructors actually prefer to teach during their nights (not me) so we can accommodate our students in Asia and Oceana.

Q. Other than the fact that people can attend from the office or home what does this offer beyond local reseller type training available pretty much everywhere? The prices are the same.

A. I'm very glad that you asked this question.  Please note that our training actually costs less than most resellers and Autodesk Training Centers (ATC) charge.

CAD Training Online's instructor led virtual classroom training brings several things to the students that are big issues with reseller or traditional ATC based training:

• We do not have a minimum number of students that must register before we run a class.  Normal resellers cancel classes all the time due to their old school (pun intended) business model.  It's this same business model that have forced these same resellers to lay off instructors by the hundreds.  CAD Training Online never cancels classes unless there is an emergency that requires us to do so.

• All travel is eliminated.  As the training director for the largest Autodesk Training Center in North America I had a lot of resources to conduct in depth analysis regarding traditional classroom based training methods and the costs associated with those traditional classes.  We literally sold training into every corner of North America, so travel cost was a big factor for me to focus on.  I found that typical travel expenses associated with attending a class that was over 75 miles away from one of our prospective students' offices was $250 per day (meals, travel and lodging).  That amounts to $1000 for a four day class.  That's nearly what the class costs by itself!

• Eliminating travel for many students sometimes literally means the difference between not receiving training from industry leading instructors and being able to attend the class that they really need and want to attend.  This makes us very happy to allow these people to better themselves thanks to how we have established our business and training model.

• Eliminating travel allows us to fragment the classes for better student retention and to allow them to remain productive at their jobs for part of the day.

• Here's a huge benefit.  When asked what the number one reason their employees were not allowed to attend  training managers mostly reply "that they can afford the cost of the training, but they can't afford to lose a production employee for day, after day, after day".  CAD Training Online's business and training methods eliminate this reason and allow more people to better themselves.

Q. Does your research show that attending online training in 3 - 8 hour consecutive days is optimum for the customer 's retention?

A. While some students elect to attend our 3 - 8 hour sessions for scheduling reasons on their part, most students elect to attend our 4 hour classes for the reasons that I have already explained.  

Q. What does your research show happens to the students learning process after the 3 days is up?

A. As a trainer of 15 years you know that people best learn when they can see, hear and do.  That is exactly what our pedagogical process offers.  Unlike recorded training videos or interactive computer based training the students attending instructor led classes get to interact with other students and with the instructor to engage and most importantly, to learn.

At CAD Training Online we know that our students never stop learning and we are here for them every step of the way.  Instead of having to remember where they watch something in a video that covered what they have forgotten, CAD Training Online offers free instructor led post training support to help our students when they get stuck or forget something from class. 

Q. How do you accomodate the wide variety of individual needs and expectation to the training?

A. Our instructors are professionals at providing instructor led CAD and BIM training.  All are Autodesk Certified Experts, some are CompTIA Certified Technical Trainers and all are Autodesk Authorized Instructors.  Their decades of real world training experience allows them to best accommodate each individual's needs.

In the event that we cannot immediately meet a student's needs we regroup and apply additional resources to that students unique needs.  Our multitude of instructors are available to handle most any need that arrises.

In the event that we can't fully meet someone's needs we have a 100% satisfaction guarantee that the student can invoke.  We have yet to be asked to return anything to any student or company.  I guess that means we're doing something right.

Q. Do your prices include the cost of the 'audio' and video connection required to attend the training?

A. Our pricing includes:

• Autodesk Authorized training materials (several hundred page training manual and CD)

• The class time with the instructor in the virtual training lab (This is where our proprietary training methods and technology come into play)

• Use of the virtual training lab for the duration of the training (Students can login from home to practice after hours)

• A 30 day license of the software for home use after class (Keep in mind that we train a lot of unemployed people who can't afford to purchase the software)

• Audio and video during the class (We can even record the class if requested, but who would want to watch 32 hours of video?)

• Free post training support

Q. Is there courseware provided and if so is the cost included? If not how much?

A. CAD Training Online's training includes everything that a student could possibly need to learn any Autodesk product.  All courseware is Autodesk Approved Courseware and not home grown.

Please let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with.

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