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minderoo

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I'm using Revit Architecture 2012 and I've been involved in creating a Revit prototype for my firm to use for a dental clinic client.  They have specific requirements for their drawings showing power, data, equipment, casework in the interior elevations, but the outlets and equipment must also be shown in the power/data/equipment plan.  I've created face-based families for all ot the required equipment, and created a group for each type of room including all standard items for each type of room so we can easily edit the group and changes reflect in all similar rooms.  Here's where I'm running into problems though... if you need to rotate this group, everything kind of blows up.  The face-based families flip to the wrong planes, or dissappear all together.  Very frusterating. 

I've tried making it a generic model family using work planes as the host for these elements, and the only problem I'm having is the symbols for the electrical outlets don't show up in the project.  Is there a way to make the symbols show up in the project, if they're imbedded in a "room" family?

Thanks for your help.

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When you create a group, there is an insertion point created with the group.  Edit that and place it in a corner where you can register the location of your group better.  Face based and wall based entities are always looking for the closest host so you want it close to begin with. 

Now when you place the group, DON'T copy.  Try this.  Copy to clipboard then paste ... you should be able to rotate before the items locate their host.

BTW - Groups have never liked mirror so I always create left right.

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minderoo

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It's not working to change the origin of the group.  It's pretty complex, but all instances in a project are the same.  I'm working with folks who are new to Revit and I want this to be as simple for them as possible so I don't hear a lot of groaning and muttering all day.  They're used to moving things around in cad quickly.  This is the typical group...

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Are all rooms the same exact size with surfaces in the same relative location as the original?  If not then your process will not work.

It may be that you are just trying to do too much here.   Maybe you need a group for each wall.....

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They are the same sizes, yes.  I was thinking about breaking it up into groups for each wall, but I just wanted it to be as few steps as possible for the folks that are going to use it.  Thanks for your help.

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Placing many REVIT 'groups' can slow the file down. I would actually entertain the idea of creating an external 'wall hosted' family and nest all the other families in that family. One family per wall configuration. Just a thought.

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