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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:50:43 AM | Trouble working on sent file

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We have been sent our first project to work on and have a very vague idea of where to start.

 

We were sent the file through e-mail.  It seems like they have set up the worksets and central file correctly on their own server, as far as we know.  The problem is that we need to work in an electrical template but the job is in an architectural.  Is the only option to create an electrical template and link the file? 

 

When linking the file a few problems arise.  I can place families without issue but there are a lot of elements that do not show up from the original drawing.  For instance, in a bathroom a light is typically placed over a sink.  Unofrtunately, in the ceiling and floor plan views the sink, toilet, etc do not show up.  I have found no solution to this other than opening a 3d or elevation view, placing the light in that view, going back to the plan view and then adjusting its position from there.  i'm also unable to see any measurements appeare during placement which is awful.  Also, it seems like you have to recreate levels for views opposed to just being able to use theirs.

 

Any solutions?  All the ones I've tried finding have been confusing and usually just has some saying they use FTP. 

 

Thanks for the help.


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:05:02 PM | Trouble working on sent file

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Well sinkhead you said a mouthfull. Starting with 'have been sent our first project'.

 

What training have you undergone so far ? Surely you aren't expecting to jump right into this. This is not MS Paint or Powerpoint. REVIT is a very sophisticated piece of software that takes training, planning and implimentation. Most people who will help you here have invested 3, 4, 5 years of constant practice just to give you an idea of scale of complexity.

 

The help menu isn't a bad place to start.

 

You need to look up what 'discipline' and 'view range' to start with.

 

Most objects, including lights must be cut or part of the 'view range' to show up. But there are exceptions and even some software flaws, specifically with electrical families and where they show up.

 

Yes you should have an electrical template.

 

I'm not sure where to begin other than read the help, or a book or get some training somehow.

 

 


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:11:46 PM | Trouble working on sent file

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"get some training somehow."

 

hmmm perhaps CADclips.com?? Winking


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:41:19 PM | Trouble working on sent file

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Hehehehe it sure wouldn't hurt. Best $149 a REVIT user could ever spend. Specifically the latest REVIT 2013 MEP series. CADclips have taught 1000's of people REVIT.

 

Also, the Ascent books are pretty good, I started with them about 8 years ago. Lots of images etc but fairly basic. Some of the other books out there I find are much too wordy which is fine once you know the software and just need reference material, but not so good for beginners. Eric's 'No Experienced Required' book is pretty good. Youtube has a ton of videos.

 

The problem with books is they never make a mistake. Everything works perfectly the first time. We all know that you can't learn if you never make a mistake.

 

 

Either way you skin it, it's going to take some time, pain, anguish and frustration. Without which there is no change !


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:31:37 PM | dgcad

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Quoting dgcad from 2013-04-11 12:05:02

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Well sinkhead you said a mouthfull. Starting with 'have been sent our first project'.

 

What training have you undergone so far ? Surely you aren't expecting to jump right into this. This is not MS Paint or Powerpoint. REVIT is a very sophisticated piece of software that takes training, planning and implimentation. Most people who will help you here have invested 3, 4, 5 years of constant practice just to give you an idea of scale of complexity.

 

The help menu isn't a bad place to start.

 

You need to look up what 'discipline' and 'view range' to start with.

 

Most objects, including lights must be cut or part of the 'view range' to show up. But there are exceptions and even some software flaws, specifically with electrical families and where they show up.

 

Yes you should have an electrical template.

 

I'm not sure where to begin other than read the help, or a book or get some training somehow.

 

 

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LOL. Wow you're a prick.  I've actually had no issues with Revit thus far.  I've taught myself through tutorials and have been doing fantastic.  Since this is the first time I am tackling a job being sent to me I've reached new obstacles.

 

As far as Revit being considered a "sophisticated product".... uh yeah I guess.  I'm self taught in Solidworks and AutoCAD as well and have had great success with those programs.

 

"The help menu isn't a bad place to start." Do I even need to respond to that?

 

Iknow what "discipline" and "view range" are by the way.  The plumbing fixtures were simply turned off, which I am an idiot for not checking to begin with.  It had nothing to do with those so, good job!  I also know that some electrical and lighting fixtures don't show up (smoke detectors for instance) so you should really stick to the topic at hand instead of going entirely off subject trying to degrade someone who contains skills and experience you don't know of.  I AM a newbie with Revit and thats why I'm asking questions, thats how someone goes about learning.  Obviously, someone needs to teach you to not be a douche.

 

I know I need an electrical template, I never asked if I needed one.  The question was whether or not I could change project from one template to another.  Tell me where that is in the help menu Puh.

 

You'll now think about responding to this in a way to degrade me further in saying that I'm unprofessional for posting a response like this and blah blah... I really don't care.  You're much more pathetic for having an ego that thrives on knowing more about a software program than someone who has much less experience than you, which only makes sense they would.  This was the last forum I expected that would have nerd assholes circling the boards like vultures looking for a post that will make them feel better about themselves.  Glad I could help you feel better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:47:06 PM | Trouble working on sent file

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I think you are totally out of line.  Not a single word that I read was at all degrading or ment to have a negative affect.  You said this was your first project and thus not know a lot about Revit so you were being told the best way to teach yourself Revit. 

I've never seen a response this bad from a user before and if this was my site you would no longer be welcome here without an apology.  dgcad and myself have answered a lot of questions and been helpful to a lot of people.  You need to check your ego and attitude at the door sinkheadhxc and look at the helpful directions dgcad pointed you toward 


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Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:47:54 PM | Trouble working on sent file

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Cool your jets there buddy. You're using some pretty vulgar words. I'd say you are actually 'out of line'.

 

You can't change a project from one template to another. You start with a template or transfer project standrds at best.

 

The reason your ceiling objects aren't showing up is because they are not being cut and therefore don't fall into the view range. The work around is to model an invisible model line in the family that dangles down.

 

I also highly doubt you were sent the project via email becasue it would be too large to email.

 

I also highly doubt you do know everything that the REVIT discipline setting does.

 

People do get refered to the help menu on this site all the site but rarely from me.

 

Solidworks and AutoCAD don't come close by the way. AutoCAD is a bunch of lines and layers with a trim and offset tool. It's pencil drafting with a mouse and an undo button.

 

No one is degrading anyone but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet. Take your rudeness and your vulgarity elsewhere. We don't need it hear.

 

Joined Feb 13 with zero posts ?  . . . . you are off to a really BAAAAAD start.

 

I agree with teafoe, one more post like that and I'd boot ya.



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