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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44:02 AM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Hi!

I have little problem with curtain wall empty panel. Panel and mullions looks empty untill i make opening on curtain wall. Panels tunrs in to glass. Can anyone help me for this and tell what iim doing wrong



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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:14:45 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Is your CW set up to have automatic glass panels? 


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:29:17 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Cw is set to Empty Panel


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:47:12 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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You need to show us more of your process and specifically what you are asking.  You assume we know by just looking at an image but we don't.  Add some text and ponters!  Also your CW properties.


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:32:38 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Thanks for your interest to WWHub!

The problem is that trellis i want get that panels should be full transparent (no glass), but on elevation view it puts glass between grids because of those round openings. If i try change those individual panels from glass to empty panel Revit  gives an error note "Missing curtain panels will be replaced with system panels to complete command" and after that Revit tells that some panels are slightly malformed... and some of panels are very narrow. If i erase grid system Revit will change whole cw to glass except those round openings. Openings are made by "edit profile" command but if i use opening command it also replasce empty panel with glass.

I think that problem is those round openings because before addinng those holes cw worked just fine even with my self made profile mullions.

 

Curtain wall properties:

Function --> Exterior

Automatically embed ---> no

Curtain panel ---> Empty Panel

Join condition ---> Not Defined

 

Horizontal Grid pattern

Layout ---> Fixed distance

Spacing ---> 200mm

Adjust for mullion size ---> yes

 

Horizontal mullion

Rectangular mullion: Self made profile



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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:01:56 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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I don't see glass - I see holes!


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:15:12 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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I turn glass sheets into yellow. Can you see problem now?



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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:25:49 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Now you are communicating better.  I was looking at the holes because that is only waht you were talking about.

 

Isolate this wall.  Now cross it vertically or window it and filter for the CW panels.  Set them to empty.


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:35:58 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Doesnt work. Revit gives warning that i wrote earlier message... iam really out of ideas


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:50:56 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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I believe your problem is your "self-made profile mullions".  You can verify by changing them to something standard. 

 

Post your mullion profile so we can test if that doesn't work.


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:59:51 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Ive tried it with basic rectacular mullion it looks same. I attach curtain wall to this post (should have do it earlier... sorry)



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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:28:02 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Sorry but it appears that Revit does not like an empty panel against a curved edge be it internal or external.

I would make this a special glass - 100% transparent..... no reflectivity.


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:32:12 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Ok. Thanks a lot for trying. Only problem on that solution is that glass fills are not transparent in elevation views...  


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:34:28 PM | Curtain wall - empty panel issue

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Sure i can override single glass panel in elevation transparent and it works... Thanks


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