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Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:05:09 PM | Detailing Help!

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Hi I am relatively new to Revit. I have been using it for rendering mostly, and have now been asked to compete with our experienced CAD guys and create full detailed construction documents in just a few days. I am really strugging with trying to find a quicker way to draw up the design and be able to produce accurate section views, schedules, and so forth. The CAD guys have all this stuff saved in a library and import it for every drawing, but I am convinced there must be a way to have all of that stuff (girts, purlins, insulation, eave struts) automatically drawn everytime I make a wall. Of course every building is unique, and heights and what not will need to be adjusted, but there has to be a better way than drawing them line by line, piece by piece and have it parametric. Any help is greatly appreciated!


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Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:09:20 PM | Detailing Help!

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It's not a one versuses the other thing. When you have everything in place for doing CD's you will be just as productive

as the CAD guys. Atfer that you will be able do and provide more type of information, views, and things that the CAD guys

could not even think of doing. I really don't think that this type activity should be part of an implementation plan for Revit

and think your company will suffer in the long run if they don't look at what's happening the Industry and make a

decision as to wether or not they should implement Revit. What you have asked is very possible in Revit, but as you can

see I am not a fan of these type actitivites and will not comment other than I have done.


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:20:46 PM | Detailing Help!

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I agree that this is not the best way to implement Revit. But, I am in the situation I am in and want to do all I can to get that push of support. My company only has four designers, including me, and I just graduated with a degree in construction management and I am trying to hold my own against a proven process and experienced designers, with only Revit on my side. I have been successful thus far, just trying to find process to help make up time rather than drawing out girts, purlins, and insulation details everytime. Any advice?


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:36:26 PM | Detailing Help!

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For my metal buildings, I have an adjustable width & length, "roof framing" family that consists of multiple, nested roof purlins.  The pitch can also be set.  I simply place in my model on my frames and the roof structure is done.  You can do the same with the walls but I find these to be modified more ofter so I usually just create and copy.  The "draped" insulation blanket can also be a nested family in your roof framing if you want that modeled as well.

 

Foundations and sidewalls/ doors/ roof surface are easy....


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:02:57 PM | Detailing Help!

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This is exactly what I am trying to do..how do you nest all of that into your family? I have almost no experience with families, as like I said I have been using it more as a conceptual/ vizual tool and simply have been grabbing families from this site. Do you just array your purlins on your frame and attach them with the roof family and save it? Will that make it stay parametric? Your right, purlins are usually 5ft standard and girts usually change per building, which is why I was wondering if there is a way when making a nested family to have those heights be parametric per wall. Like I said though, I have no experience in this and would love any kind of direction in making these nested families and parameters. Thank you!


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:28:39 PM | Detailing Help!

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I do not know where I originally got my family. 

The individual purlin is nested in a "purlins" family that is nested in my roof framing family.

Attached are the parameters.

A good exercise to learn on.



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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:29:43 PM | Detailing Help!

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Nice! That is exactly what I am trying to create. What family type did you start with? Generic Wall based?


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:06:11 PM | Detailing Help!

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Start with a non-hosted template and load in a purlin family.  For the framing family, you might start with one of the pre-engineered fame families here on RC.  Remove the solid elements and use the angle and span formulas that are already in the family.  Then insert the purlins family in that.


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Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:04:28 PM | Detailing Help!

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Ok this is what I entered and I got this error message. I am not sure if I am doing this right at all.



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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:13:10 PM | Detailing Help!

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I still cannot seem to tackle this issue. Any idea what I did wrong?


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:27:52 PM | Detailing Help!

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First, although it appears that you don't have others,  - make sure you only have one type in the family initially.  You can add more types later.

 

This may be a units issue. 

 


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Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:06:17 PM | Detailing Help!

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I think it just started with length..


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