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I don't think you want to jump into a project mid-stream with Revit.  There is just too much to learn and everyone will be frustrated and disappointed.  You are far better off to be using Revit early in a small project to build your knowledge.  Deadlines can kill your learning process.

That being said, worksets allow multiple users.  My initial advice is don't go overboard with the number of worksets you use. I suggest for architecture:

• Levels and grids
• Workset one
• a workset for every linked file
• Shell ( All exterior components of the model)
• Interiors (furnishings)
• maybe owner provided

On very large projects, you may add additional worksets per level or area so that you can use reduced loadings to improve performance but you should not be in a model like that yet.

The shell workset allows you to have exterior views / 3d etc where you only need the exterior and you will improve model performance.

Understand that linked files are never re-linked.  Just use the reload from in the mange linked files area.

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I would tell your firm/bosses to invest in some implementation consultants to help you guys along. A hundred person firm is no small test. Even your pilot project sounds all wrong for a first project. Also the capabilites of Revit do not need to be tested. The program has been proven capable by the market place. What you will need is a capable implementation plan. I'm sure you will learn a lot in what you are attempting to do with this project, but it also sounds like there will also be a lot pain and aggrevation also. Best of Luck.

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Hey guys, thanks for you time.

Here is a reply I posted with further information on where I am coming from:

"Hey guys, I really appreciate the discussion about implementing Revit here. After further talks with my project manager, I have a much clearer idea of what they want with this particular project. Thankfully I have the backing of the senior staff and they recognize that switching from 2D AutoCAD to 3D BIM design will be a slow and often times painful process.

Here is some more information regarding this project. I am part of design team that specializes in hospital and healthcare architecture. We have collaborated with the firm's structural and MEP system engineers before, and we are in the middle of 3 projects, one of which is the one I talked about in my OP. One thing to note is that there is very little free time to work on a test model, as most of our time is taken up by on-going projects. However, the reason why I believe we can implement BIM successfully at this firm is because the project managers are assessing this transition period carefully and methodically.

We have hired a BIM consultant to work with our firm's small (3 person) BIM center on the projects they have going on, which mainly consists of tutoring them on family creations I think, while I will be leading the BIM team for this particular project. I will come out and say honestly that I have at least a year or two on the people in the BIM center, which was one of the reasons I was hired and placed on this design team. While our BIM center will concentrate on creating families, I will be overseeing the creation of the project's Revit model and working on our firm's BEP with our BIM consultant. While this project won't be completely using BIM, our next one will most likely be, so I really want to gather as much information and ideas from you guys as you're willing to give in order to minimize the aches and pains we'll no doubt go through.

To answer a question: I am leading an interdisciplinary team that will focus directly on Revit modeling. There will be a few architects and engineers; one for each M E P, one for structural, one for landscaping, one for interior design, and me for architecture. Our Revit experience is all over the map, but we are relatively young and have been exposed to BIM and its concepts."

WWHub: What are the benefits of creating a workset for every linked file? I was under the impression that linked files cannot be edited unless you open the linked filed, which unloads it from the parent file. Would this be enough of a buffer to stop other disciplines from editing the file?

Also, thank you for the tip on shell worksets. That could come in handy when our clients want to see some progress work.

As for worksets for grids. I just pin my grids. Is that enough?

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The purpose of separate worksets for linked models is simply control and better performance.  This has nothing to do with controlling editing.  In many views, you don't need all the links.  By creating a workset that is set up to be not visible in all views you can turn that workset on only where you need it.  This is especially true for 2D cad links.  Also, you can use reduced loads at opening on very large files.  BTW - You typically want very few CAD links (None if possible) so at most you might have 4-5 Revit links.

Levels and Grids is a standard workset and most firms leave that alone as is.  As far as pinning, I personally don't recommend pinning all grids.  I recommend that you pin your first grid in both directions the dimension lock from there the remaining grids.

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