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kvell

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I am trying to have a ceiling fan outline show up on the floor plan to help with space organization and layout.  There are a lot of these fans in the project and it would be nice to simply be able to change something in the family to allow for a dashed outline of the fan to show up in plan.

Ihave tried 3 methods already and have found issues with them.

1. I have used the Underlay>Underlay Orientation to show the RCP under the Floor Plan.  There are several issues with this with all elements showing up.  I know I could go through and turn off certain categories, or use filters etc. but that is a pain.

2. I have used the same process of Underlay>Underlay Orientation to show the RCP under the Floor Plan and used the Linework tool to have the element outline remain on the Floor Plan, however I do not wish to go around and do this to every fixture that I wish to show up (especially if they are the same family).  This also can cause issues if you add a fixture later and forget to chase your tail and Linework the element on the Floor Plan.  Kind of beats the purpose of using BIM and Paramentic families.

3. Editing the family to have an outline show up on the floor plan.  I have not had any luck getting this to work since most families only have one reference level that is associated to a surface in the project (i.e. Ceiling ref level and no Floor ref level and vice versa).  I have tried Symbolic Lines, and Model lines in hopes of it showing up.

Any suggestions woudl be much appreciated.

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I found a few threads on this that may be helpful for you. There seems to be a few different ways to do this.  Depending on your situation it will be up to you what works best.

http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/architecture/2011/10/revit-showing-elements-from-a-ceiling-plan-in-a-floor-plan/

http://aectechtalk.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/display-ceiling-information-in-revit-floor-plans/

http://blogs.rand.com/support/2012/02/00119582.html

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teafoe5,

Thank you for the links.  I appreciate the effort, however each link you provided are the same methods I described in the original post. Each of these methods have some major flaws, especially when dealing with a large building. 

So far the best method I've found is creating a long skinny cylinder within the family, set the visibility/graphic overrides to where it is not visible in plan/RCP, front/back, or left/right and using a symbolic line to represent the fixture above.  This works much like the door swing in door families.  If the cutting plane passes through the element the symbolic line is visible.

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An invisible line in a non-cuttable family works.

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WWHub,

I am not using an invisble line, I have created a volume (skinny cylinder) and set the visibility/graphic overrides so it does not appear in any view.  since it is part of the family it is technically still being "cut."  This allows for the symbolic line at the ref level of the family to appear in any view where the family (invisible cylinder included) is being cut.

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You didn't understand.  A vertical invisible line in the family will work the same as your cylinder.

^^^ When family builders have used invisible lines for location purposes, this has caused problems for them with the family showing up where they don't want it.  You do - so you can use this.

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Oh, ok.

Thank you.

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