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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:54:53 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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In Revit 2012, I have a stacked wall that clearly cuts through my reflected ceiling plan.  I inherited the model with the wall already hidden and I want to unhide it, but it refuses.  I have checked the filters, worksets, phases, and categories to see if they factored into the problem, but they are all the same as the rest of the neighboring walls.  Do you know what might be causing this problem?

Incidentally, when I create a fresh reflected ceiling plan, the wall does not have this problem so I know it cannot be the wall itself.  There's something wrong with the hidden settings of the original reflected ceiling plan.  I'd prefer not to have to recreate the entire reflected ceiling plan with notes on account of this one wall.


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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:19:52 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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I just saw a nearly identical post by a user named Kprol from Feb. 2012, also using a stacked wall.  Incidentally, I had already tried all of the prescribed methods listed in that post too, but came up empty handed just like he did with no solution.  Must be something quirky with regard to stacked walls.


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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:01:53 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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The problem is stacked walls are hard to pick from a small view. Try this.

  1. Open a plan view that has this element and the hidden view side by side (tiled).
  2. Reveal the hidden elements in the hidden view.
  3. Switch to the plan view
  4. Tab select the stacked wall in the plan ... must be the stack - not just a portion.
  5. move your curser to the hidden window, right click and select unhide element.

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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:11:04 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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Sounds like a thorough method and I just tried it, but unfortunately it did not work.  I did however obtain a clue as to why it is not responding correctly.  When I attempted to unjoni an adjacent wall from the culprit, I received an error message "Element's internal join data is corrupt."  The culprit wall was highlighted in orange.  No sense in fighting a corrupt element.


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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:36:19 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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Be aware that you can always break up stacked walls.  We may use stacked walls at the beginning of a project but we usually break them up because of wall join problems.


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Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:45:40 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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That's a good idea; I didn't realize it was possible.  We've had dozens of occasions where the wall joins get too complicated especially at corners where they meet other types of stacked walls.  I just googled it and turns out you only have to right click and select "Break Up".


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Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:28:20 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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Incidentally, as soon as I broke up the wall in question, the problem went away.


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Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:26:45 PM | Can't Unhide Stubborn Wall

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Great!

 

Be aware that stacked walls are really like a group in that they are individual elements.   You can't tag a stacked wall as such, you can just tag the portion of the stack that you have picked.  They are individual walls that are stacked together.


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