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Revit really does need a new GUI (Graphical User Interface). This is especially evident when working on a large project with many families and types loaded. I realise that prior to loading a family into a project, a image preview of that family is shown, but that is the last graphical representation you'll see until the object is actually placed into a project.
I will often start a new project using an existing one (which has similar client criteria) as a template. If the existing template project happens to be six months old for example, I have no way of viewing it's familes unless I actually spend time placing them, or reviewing each family file. If the project happens to be someone elses, then the families are unique to the project and can only be viewed by placing them, or checking family properties and comparing text descriptions in the family selector.
Anyone familiar with Architectural Desktop will understand where i'm coming from. ADT is a very cumbersome, limited and complex package to use, but it does have a great, customisable GUI. Objects such as doors and windows etc, have individual files in ADT, very similar to Revit, but are much easier to maintain and access on-screen. The customisable tool pallet system in ADT allows the user to setup individual buttons with actual image representations of any object. So, instead of selecting doors and having to scroll through a miriad of text descriptions of families (all of which may be used in the current project), and having to place them just to see what they look like, ADT allows the user to create a button or an entire tool pallet with actual images of the objects as button icons.
I would imagine a system in Revt not too different from the current system, but instead of selecting from text descriptions of objects, I might press the 'Doors' icon and a flyout tool pallet containing door families would shoot out horizontally (much like the 'start' button in Windows, in default, flies out vertically). Each of these buttons or icons could then contain a vertical flyout of various types or instances, and again have actual images of the object represented on each selection button. By the way, ADT also allows both text and pictorial representations, so an image along with a brief text description is possible. Some text descriptions for Revit familes are more like entire sentences. The ability to have both images and text to describe a given family would simplify the family selection process significanlty.
I guess with Vista coming out this year and the ever increasing power and parallelism of both CPU's and GPU's, perhaps the good folks at Autodesk might put some of this to good use (in this and some other areas) and create a real GUI instead of a TUI (Texttual User Interface)
Apart from all this Revit is still a great package.
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Hmm, i would have to disagree. I think the Revit GUI is fine, and much, MUCH less complex than that of ADT or AutoCAD. There's no reason to have 900 icons in ADT when you use the same 7 commands all day long to make a buiding. In Revit, we have the bare essentials, from which all else can be created. A simple way to check the family is to hover over it, and it will pop-up a small box telling you what category, family, and type it is. I don't have the problem of not knowing what a family might look like, since my template starts out with almost no objects in it. Users must load them as they go, which prevents the problem you are suggesting from occurring. Hope that helps!
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Revit has hired a GUI expert from Adobe. I expect to see some changes in the future releases.
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Thanks for the heads up Scott, good to hear.
Reviteer, I appreciate your view and it sounds as though in your case, and probably in many others, the current GUI in Revit is fine. When the new changes Scott has pointed out do occur, the option to leave things as they are will hopefully be available for those who are happy with the current setup. I would personally like to see at least the option to address the on-screen issues I brought up in the first post.
Another matter which I neglected to address in the first post was the matter of on-screen real estate. I have recently read in the AUGI forums that this is a common "wish list" item and may possibly be addressed by allowing an optional autohide system for the drawing tools and view navigator such as that found in Autocad and ADT pallets.
I guess this GUI issue is obviously of concern to Autodesk if they have taken the trouble to hire outside assistance.
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