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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:27:43 AM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Hi there,

I've started using Revit in 2010 in a one person drawing and designing business. I choose Revit because it should be convenient for BIM and that sounded like a good business opportunity. After 3 years of struggling with I can manage it for my needs. BIM never became a need but small  renovations of freestanding hoouses or new private housing or schools became my main business. I like the phases possibility and I render a lot of jobs.

But often I'm really getting frustrated with this program. It's got lot of promises in it but lots of them simply don't work. Really too much too tell. Problems with hardware. Program crashes at least three times a week. No autosave only way too much journal files. Renderings that't don't work. Decal settings don't work well in renderings. Walls auto joining are not always functional. So many settings in different places. Even simpliest function like trimming lines/walls under a 45 degree corner are missing. I could make a long story here.

Just curious are there others out there in a similar situation that are really contented with Revit ?

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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:32:36 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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I think a lot of your frustration is still lack of experience.    There is a lot of learning required to get the full potential of this program and you are at a disadvantage being a one person office.  Sharing with other users who are making their mistakes and learning from them really helps.  Your 3 years may be only similar to someone's one year in a larger office.

 

Give this time and keep learning.  If you focus on the perceived negatives you are bound for failure.


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:52:56 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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well said Hub, I work in an office with 4 Cad Technicians, I would never have been able to learn Revit without those guys. Now that I know it well, I could never go back to 2D AutoCAD I was producing at my last company.


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:10:59 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Off course things would be a lot easier when there's someone next to you to give you some practical advice so now and then. Makes learning a lot easier. I managed this by video trainings and some support from my provider.

But nevertheless I assume that Revit has of lot of failures and bugs that made the learning curve a lot steeper. Especially when you try all kind of things like renderings with artificial lights or decals inside. 

And I would never go back to 2D drawings either. 


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:52:51 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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" I assume that Revit has of lot of failures and bugs "

I disagree.  If Revit cannot accomplish a task itself there is usually a workaround that can get the job done.  Every program is going to have some sort of bug that goes along with it.  Revit is not perfect but it has a ton more pros than cons.  I think along with your video tutorials you need to invest in some books such as Masterin Revit and perhaps even a class.  You said you used video training, is that just off youtube?  There are a lot of videos out there that are VERY helpful such as going through CADclips.com.  Just keep pushing through and learning as much as you can. 


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:04:34 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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I used the DVD's from Cadlearning 4D and Infinite Skills. Sometimes youtube.



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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:07:52 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Have you given the CADclips video tutorials a chance ?

 

For someone who is not getting alot of local exposure these videos sure can help out and provide the knowledge gained from someone else's 25 year career.

 

* 14 Hours of Free CADclips just posted here.  . . . .time limited . . . . get them while they're hot.

 

- I also suggest you join a REVIT / BIM user group in your local area if at all possible. Go to the meetings and network with other users.

 

- Read the 'Today's Posts' on this site every day.

 

- Read as many blogs and online discussion group conversations as you can.

 


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:55:27 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Thank you for the download tip. I downloaded them but I wouldn't know where to find all the time watching all of them Winking. First of all I don't want to be the perfect Revit draughtsmen but a good building engineer/designer. That's my main interest and Revit is after all not more than a tool. Sometimes a very surprising tool most sometimes quite frustrating.

The problem is that on regulary base Revit doesn't work like it should according to the manual or even video. Even my provider (Cadac) hasn't got an answer sometimes to the problems I'm meeting. For instance aligning masonry on edited(profiles) walls in an realistic elevation. Just one of the things that can be solved only in a very complicated way.

It's not all about lack of experience but as well as software that doesn't behave like it should.

BTW there's no such thing here as a users group and I did start 2,5 years ago with an official 4 days Revit training. 

The things I want to make I usual get done somehow but sometimes very timeconsuming. Maybe you just take a look at my drawings on http://www.sklad.nl/2012/06/bergen-nh/?pid=92 for instance.

 


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:08:13 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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"The problem is that on regulary base Revit doesn't work like it should according to the manual or even video"

"software that doesn't behave like it should"

To me it sounds like this is a lot of user error.  If your provider doesn't have the answers look elsewhere such as this forum.

 

"I wouldn't know where to find all the time watching all of them "

If you don't take the time to properly train yourself with the program you are never going to learn the program and it is just going to constantly frustrate you because you don't know how things are done properly in the program. 

Your projects dont appear to be overly difficult from the photos I think it is your process that you need to work on.  Nobody likes to spend extra time learning a program but it needs to be done.


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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:13:13 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Come back here with specific questions like: "...For instance aligning masonry on edited(profiles) walls in an realistic elevation...." - include a better description of the problems and some screen shots and there will be people here that can help you.

 

Your vendor won't know squat!



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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:08:45 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Well, I love Revit and enjoy a lot working with it, but certainly you have to be very patient to get all the advantages of it, and some times you need to spend a lot of time doing little simple things, like a particular stair rail, for instance; time that bosses are not willing to tolerate. So my suggestion for you is that you hire someone to stay sat in the office doing all that carpentry work. The only feature of sections generation alone, worth all of that. However I'm getting tired of MEP, I have been posting all kind of questions on this forum and NOBODY has been able to respond anyone of them. It (revit) puts the elbows that it wants, never behave logicaly, everytime I want to do a trim in an elevation, the angle of pipes changes alone and tools like "ignore slope" doesn't seem to do anything; the size of pipe been created resets to 2 and a half inches after each pick, I'm getting tired of that, it's a mess and it seems very limited some times. I know that maybe it's me, not the program, so I keep working on my own trying to cheat the program and figuring out all those issues. Don't give up.

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Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:51:32 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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silana,

 

There are not that many MASTER posters here on MEP - sure wish there were more.  I just sent an email to eddieboarder who is one of the really qualified users asking him to help.  He has not been on since July - I hope nothing is wrong there.

 

Hang in for awhile and if he posts ... check his answers out.


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Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:21:39 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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OK I will. Thank you very much.


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Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:36:49 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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I worked with revit for 3 years during school and thought I had a good grasp on it. However since getting into an office setting where everyone has different specialties within the program Ive picked up a lot of stuff

 

For example, I render a lot. I know how to get materials and lights to work right to get the best possible solution. However, I just learned parametric families the other day from a co worker. And before that I learned mechanical for another project

 

A lot of revit learning comes from working with other people. Hang in there


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Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:43:53 PM | Anyone getting tired of Revit ???

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Hi there,

A bit of a surprise to get this reaction on a thread of a year ago. For myself I can say that working with Revit has become a lot easier and functional. Training video's and DVD's were a good help. So I kept hanging in there and not whithout succes.

Fine to hear that you render a lot and are well known with materials and lightning. Maybe you could give a general advice for best working practice in managing materials and assets. The material and asset browser became really slow in Revit 2013 and I didn't meet a proper solution until now. Especially duplicating an asset in the asset browser is a missing function for me.

I would like to hear a good advice on that point.

Regards

Just a small example of my work:

http://youtu.be/OUooL27wVLs                    movie took about 8 hours to render)

http://www.sklad.nl/2012/10/lts-deel-ii/?pid=100               example of a cloud rendering, sorry only in dutch language)

 

 

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