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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:48:20 PM | Clean wall join

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Working in Revit 2012 and I cannot seem to get a clean wall join. See attached (wall 1) I have a 45 degree wall intersecting w/ a vert. wall. No problem there. But when I draw in a horiz. (see the attached wall 2) and use the trim/extend to corner command I get theis result. I cannot seem to clean up that little piece of gwb that goes into the 45 degree wall. Tried wall joins, disallow join stretching it back and then tried trim/extend single element. Just can't get a clean look. Any ideas?



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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:17:08 PM | Clean wall join

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These are often hard to solve.  I am assuming that your walls are built correctly as far as layer priorities.

 

Pull back the vertical until it full disjoins, then pull it back up until it joins.


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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:40:37 PM | Clean wall join

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 I did as you said WW. First I just (see attached wall 3) took it back to the wall "in red". Didn't work out that great. Then I did as you suggested and pulled out to unjoin. I then stretched it back to the wall highlighted in red (wall 3) got that same result. I also stretched it to the opposite side of the red wall (wall 3) and the result I got was (wall 2) again.

I believe the layer properties were set up correctly. But now I that I think about it, these walls are the standard "out of the box" revit walls. So what should I be checking / unchecking in the edit property box to possibly clean this up?



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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:51:28 PM | Clean wall join

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Pull the perpendicular wall back first.  Fillet the join for the two outside walls then pull that wall back in. 



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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:54:49 PM | Clean wall join

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We are assuming that these three walls are all the same height and not joined to a different wall above this view.  If one of them is, then that is your problem.  You would need to split that wall horizontally at that level.


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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:09:53 PM | Clean wall join

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WW, the walls are all the same. They go from floor and attached to the floor above. Quinn, I did as you suggested and I still get the same result. (I am assuming fillet is trim/extend to corner command) I also fillet the horiz and the vert. They joined clean. Then after that I fillet in the horiz and angled wall and get a clean join but the vert wall is back to havin a piece of gwb out there. Also started over and fillet the vert and angled wall and got a clean join. Then when I fillet the horiz and the angled I went back to square one w/ the vert havin the piece of gwb out there again. FYI, I stretched back each piece of wall prior to the fillet of each wall.

Let me ask this, does it matter how the wall was drawn (i.e. core, face of core, finish face, etc...)? Could this be why I keep having that piece of gwb out there?


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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:35:28 PM | Clean wall join

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it looks like when ever you have a second layer of finish on anything it will ignore the join commands.  There is a work around but probably not worth it.  You can make it a single wall and add two seperate walls of finish on each side, that will get you there. 



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Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:46:05 PM | Clean wall join

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fast way to get an answer is duplicate the project purge everything out other than the area in question and add as an attachment for for us to review otherwise were going to continue to through maybes. 


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Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:32:41 PM | Clean wall join

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 Quinn and WW, thx for all the feed back. I have managed to do a work around for this. But it sure would be nice to know if there is a solution to this problem for future reference. I have attached a stripped down version of my revit file. Please feel free to see if there is a solution to my wall joining issue so that we may be able to share this with other people. It is in 2012.



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Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:01:44 PM | Clean wall join

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I can't get to work either.  Use the edit cut profile for your plan views.



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Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:39:04 PM | Clean wall join

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Thx for the suggestion WW. It did clean it up. But I will try to avoid this situation in the near future. It was a lot of work to gain so little. 


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Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:30:48 AM | Clean wall join

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Sorry looking at this way too late for the OP but in case anyone else comes across it and is looking for an answer... 

 This is from the Revit NER book although this actual wall join is not part of the tutorial so the situation never actually arises as it's shown here, however there is clearly an issue. 

The best solution I have found for this is to move the plasterboard finish layers into the wall core.  This doesn't produce a completely clean join but it's pretty close.  If the wall is moved slightly further along the angled wall then moving the inner plasterboard layers into the core and keeping the outer ones out provides the cleanest option.

It appears that this is just one of those specific combinations that Revit struggles to deal with.  If I come up with anything better I'll post it on here.

Cheers

K.



Edited on: Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:35:55 AM

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