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Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:37:43 PM | Conceptual Mass and Objects by Face Workflow Problem

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Hey everyone, I'm having an issue figuring out how to create a workflow that works for conceptual masses.  When I develop a conceptual mass, my thought process is that the outside face of the mass is where the limits of my building is going to be and my mass floor schedule gives me the gross floor area.  So far so good.  Now when I bring the mass into a project and apply curtain systems by face, but I have to set up the curtain system so that everything offsets into the mass.  My "face of glass" is typically where I want on the mass face.  Still good.  Now I apply floors and roofs to my mass floor faces.  Here's where things go awry. In section now my floors and curtain systems are overlapping.  I can't seem to cut the floor from the curtain system.  I can edit the boundary of the floor and offset it back but if my mass changes then I have to redo it.  If I have a 50 story building and one that is curved this becomes a major pain.  The only thing I have found that kind of works is to create an in-place floor void offset from the mass face but this only works on flat surfaces and not curved surfaces.  What am I missing here?  Why can't i get my building to work the way it should?  How am I supposed to use a conceptual mass and get the gross floor areas that I need? Thanks.



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Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:53:02 PM | Conceptual Mass and Objects by Face Workflow Problem

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Have you tried to lock the floor boundaries to the mass or curtain wall?


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Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:20:07 PM | Conceptual Mass and Objects by Face Workflow Problem

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Yah i tried that but it requires going through all 200 edges to lock a constraint and I'm not able to even add a parameter in case i need to change the offset.

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Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:19:24 AM | Conceptual Mass and Objects by Face Workflow Problem

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The only workaround I could think of is to make a new mass inside your original mass (offset to the inside face of your curtainwall) Then make your floor to that second mass.



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