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Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:19:47 PM | Identical Views act differently

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I have a generic family that has a 3D dwg imported within it. Family catagory is generic model

It is loaded into my project file and placed on a level.

There are two views that show the family differently in each, one has the family "cut" as I would expect, the other shows the family not "cut" i.e. overhead objects show in the plan view.

Both views have the same view templet applied to the view. I have dbl checked everything I can think of to try to discover the difference but I can identify what is different.

I've attached a screen capture and show an arrow to the overhead objects in the view. The views have dependent views as well thats why I have 4 views up.

Can anyone think of a reason the views act differently? 



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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:03:32 PM | Identical Views act differently

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I can't really see what you are talking about but I will say this.  Generic families are NOT CUTABLE so I don't know what you see that is cut.  With non-cuttable familes, if any part of the family is within the cutplane of the view, the whole family shows.


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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:53:53 PM | Identical Views act differently

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That is intresting because in the image the generic family IS CUT how did that happen? In most plan views the family is correctly cut. The image I attached shows the one case where it's not cut.

The upper images have the trellis cut at the view depth line the lower images show the entire trellis above the cut line. everything about the two views are identical


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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:14:40 PM | Identical Views act differently

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I think you need to look again ... and maybe post some better images.  I can't see a difference.  The two top views look the same and the two bottom views look the same.  You don't say which view is cut ....

 

BTW - delete the family and see what happens.  Is it gone from the cut view?

 


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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:02:54 PM | Identical Views act differently

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Here are closer views of the same area. you can see the cut object vs the non cut object, (same object in both views each view with the same view templet applied)



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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:17:08 PM | Identical Views act differently

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Your not telling us some things.  Why does this one element you have X'd show without the overhead part? 

 

A different family ? 

Please verify the cutplane - that may not be included in the view template.



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Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:44:01 PM | Identical Views act differently

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Cut line in view range is 4'6" with in a view template applied to both views

 

I include a 3D view of the area as well



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Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:08:35 PM | Identical Views act differently

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There is a difference between assigned template and applied template - nothing is automatic here.  Even though a view may have a template assigned, it is not applied until you appy it.  And if you change something afterwards, you would have to apply the template again. 

 

This is why I recommend that before publication, you pull down over all the drawings in your browser, right click and pick "apply default view template to all views".   

 

So, in this case, try that.  If that doesn't make the views the same, then we may need to see this family.  Your problems may be caused by the loaded 3D CAD in it.


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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:04:30 PM | Identical Views act differently

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I applied the templete to the view. No change the object still does not respond.

The family is indeed complex, I have a designer that likes to use sketch-up,  in a effort to keep him in the Revit work flow I took his SKP and exporteded to 3D DWG and inserted that into a generic family with the catagory set to "generic models".

I placed the family into the poroject and looked in each view to see the result and found this anomily.

 

I have attached the family if you want to look at it

 



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