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Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:24:50 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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I am helping out  a mechanical engineer with his Revit Project.  We are working in Revit Systems 2011. I have linked our Architectural Model to the file.  The architectural file has several types of rated walls in it.  The walls are drawn to show as a color for each different type of rated wall.  All the walls show in the MEP model, but I cannot get any of the colors to show.  We would really like to be able to see the color of the walls in the model in order to check the placement of the fire dampers.  Does anyone know how to make this happen?  I have been messing with VG all day and view templates but cannot get the colors to show.  

Any help would be appreciated.  


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Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:29:50 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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You don't say, are these a coarse wall color? 

... or are these a material color?  He would have to have the material definition as you have altered it in your model.


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Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:06:37 AM | Walls in a Linked Model

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They are actually both.   How do I get the material definition into his model? Your help is greatly appreciated.  Thank you. 


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Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:34:19 AM | Walls in a Linked Model

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I would open the projects up side by side (unload link before opening linked project) then simply copy a wall from the linked project into your project - then delete it.  That should bring all the information with it.


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Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:56:28 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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I did this and it did bring in the walls with all the materials and colors.  The colors still do not show up though.  I have gone through VG again and through each individual wall to verify that the color is part of the material (and it is), but still nothing.  I am at a complete loss her.  Any other suggestions?


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Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:43:16 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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The PROJECT RULES - always.  That means that if the material used in your walls was already defined in the project, then those settings apply.  You will have to look at the materials and alter them to match.


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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:53:48 AM | Walls in a Linked Model

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In order to check this I went to Manage - Material and then found the metal studs and verified that they were correct.  All the colors were right.  Is there another way to do this?   Even if I draw the wall in the Mechanical Model it won't color. I felt certain that it had something to do with the linking of the file, but since I can't even draw a wall and have it work out I'm lost.  Thanks for your feedback.  


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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:23:57 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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I asked you this first: "You don't say, are these a coarse wall color? "  And you say they are both.  Coarse colors will only show if the view or the wall category in a view is set to coarse.

 

Also, look at the VG setting and make sure they are not over-ridden in view to not show cut fill colors.


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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:36:59 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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I am sorry if I am not being clear.  Below is all the information I know to give you:

In the architectural model the wall structure is set to a material color (ie Metal Stud 1 Hour is solid fill, green) the wall itself that is drawn is set to coarse color green as well.  So technically it is both drawn as a coarse color and a material color.  The model also has other things, such as fire cabinets that are filled with a solid color.  All these are working great in the architectural model.  

The drawing I am in now has linked that file into the HVAC/Plumbing file.  I can see the color in the solid filled fire cabinets, but not in the material of the wall or the coarse colors (setting the levels to coarse).  I have copied the materials in like you suggested and checked that they were accurate. I have changed the fine - coarse of each level, changed from wire frame to hidden line, there are no overrides in visisbility graphics set and I have messed with the display settings of the linked file, changing between host or linked file being in "control".  Nothing I am doing is making the wall colors show.  They will not even show if I draw the wall in the HVAC model.  

I have changed the VG overrides to show the color, but they still won't show.   

Thanks again for your help.

 


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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:58:54 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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In the properties vie, change the discipline from mechanical ?  to coordination and lets see what happens.



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Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:16:49 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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That worked.  Thank you so much!!!!!

 


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Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:06:16 AM | Walls in a Linked Model

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The View 'Discipline' plays a much bigger role in REVIT than most people are aware. The Architects haven't had to deal with it so much but the MEP people have to fully understand the impact of the view Discipline.

 

View Discipline controls (factory set) object visibility above and beyond Object styles and Visibility Graphics and also works with the Project Browser organization.


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Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:45:30 PM | Walls in a Linked Model

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Thanks so much dgcad for the info.  I have dealt very little with Discipline and would have never figured this out.  I am going to have to do a little research on this aspect of Revit to better understand my choices.  

 


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