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Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:04:02 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Can't seem to have structural foundations not override by category. Can do it individually or by linework, but that's too much trouble.changing object style doesn't seem to work either.Anyone else experience this?

 

I'm using 2013, but have had this issue for the last few releases


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Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:09:51 PM | overriding structural foundations

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What are you trying to override? Have you tried doing it in Visability Graphics or your Object StyleS?


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:45:19 PM | overriding structural foundations

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both visibility graphics and object styles.


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:55:24 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Click on your foundation, right click and click Override Graphics in View and you can change your projection lines, surface patterns, transparency, cut lines, cut patterns etc.


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:03:06 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Although what teafoe says is correct, I think that is already your problem.  Object styles have always and still do work for me.  However, if someone over-rode them in a few or set a fllter to them in the view, then they will remain so no matter what your object stye setting is.


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:15:58 PM | overriding structural foundations

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no filter has been applied, could it be a default setting

 

I've had this issue for so long. I'll try adjust a view template to fix it, but I don't have much hope

 


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:27:58 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Do this simple test.

 

Cut a new section through the foundation.  While there, from the manage tab, object syles, change the linewidth for the cut settings for foundations to something like 15 and hit apply.  ... Oh, and make sure your under the view tab, your not on the thin lines setting.  The foundation lines changed - correct?  Now we know you have an over-ride somewhere.


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Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:16:59 PM | overriding structural foundations

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One big risk with revit is stacking fixes on top of fixes. 

 

It's easy to justify to meet a deadline... but then there's the next deadline, and things get more and more complicated, and almost impossible to figure out what was done previously to the view. 

 

I'd do as WWhub suggests and make as fresh a view as possible so you can start narrowing down where your problems start.

 

Object styles shouldn't be altered lightly.  You should settle on some standard graphics/lineweights, and make these your object styles lineweights.   Exceptions should be controled by Visibility/Graphics category overrides next.  Then overrides by elements, halftone/hidden.  Then linework, then masking regions/detail lines as a last resort if your drawing were supposed to be posted 5 minutes ago and you notice something totally wrong that needs to be faked in quick, and you absolutely KNOW there will be no further changes.

 

That's the foodchain of graphic control in my opinion.

 

 


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Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:46:07 PM | overriding structural foundations

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so when I change object styles, the section view and 3d views change, but not the plan view.

 

 


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Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:11:34 PM | overriding structural foundations

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If in that plan view, you can't over-ride the linetype/weight by category, then as I said earlier, it has already been done.

 

Make a fresh plan from the view tab (DON'T COPY THE VIEW) - now see what happens.


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Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:08:02 PM | overriding structural foundations

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I have also been having this issue for quite some time, I have existing structural foundations that will show dark and bold but despite my best efforts I have not been able to correct the problem. I am working with 3 files linked together on this project but the issues seem to stem from the model in which my strucrual building was created.

When I am in that file, I have checked and double checked the object styles, (VG) graphic overrides in existing and new views, as well as phase filters and graphic overrides. All three model's settings match and all objects except foundations react properly. 

I have to admit I am pretty confused and have tried just about everything I can think of. Any chance that this could be an error with program or if file size could contribute to this type of problem?

 

 


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Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:33:00 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Linked files are typically controlled by the host file.... which is the way you want it.  (I hope you are not linking by view)

So - check the settings in your file.  Under VG/linked Revit, look and see if model elements are by hot view - that is the default.  Most users prefer to set linked files to custom which gives you a new set of VG controls just for that linked revit file.


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Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:19:16 PM | overriding structural foundations

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Thanks for the help, much appreciated!


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Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:10:50 AM | overriding structural foundations

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I know this is an old thread, but I was having a similar problem. My footers were showing up with surface pattern and solid lines, even after I had set override graphics by category to make them empty and dashed.

The problem was in my view range - the View Depth was set below footer level, but the Bottom was set just at the top of the footer. I set the Bottom lower than the footer and the graphics overrides came on.


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