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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:44:10 AM | Refernce Sections

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I can't understand what reference sections are for. I followed the instructions from the User's Guide to test it out, but if I makea section then I already am making a section, how does the reference section work?

 

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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:14:28 AM | Refernce Sections

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From your HELP menu:

 

Reference Sections
 
 
 

 

Reference sections are sections that reference an existing view. They do not create a new view when you add them to your project.

You can place reference sections in plan, elevation, section, drafting, and callout views. Reference sections can reference section views, callouts of section views, and drafting views.

To create a reference section:

  1. Click View tabCreate panel (Section).
  2. On the Options Bar, select Reference other view, and select a section, callout of a section, or drafting view name from the drop-down menu next to it. If there are no existing views to reference, you can select <New Drafting View> to create a new drafting view; the reference section then references this new drafting view.
    NoteIf a view from the menu list is on a sheet, the detail number and sheet number display next to the view. For example, if you select a drafting view to be referenced and it is on a sheet, its name displays as Drafting View: Drafting 1 (1/A101), where the values in parentheses represent the detail number and sheet number.
  3. Sketch the section line.

Reference Section Tips

  • There is no parametric relationship between the reference section and the referenced view. Resizing the clip planes of a reference section has no effect on the crop region of the referenced view.
  • If you double-click the reference section head, the referenced view opens.
  • The reference section head includes a label. To change the label text, edit the Reference Label parameter. It is a type parameter of the section family.
  • Any sections placed in a drafting view must be reference sections. They do not create a new section view. The Reference other view option is always selected and cannot be cleared.


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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:53:55 AM | Refernce Sections

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I read that already (thanks for your time and trouble). But here's the problem:When you reach instruction number 3 - to sketch the Section line - then in essence you are making a new section - or somehow the existing section now has 2 separate section lines in 2 different places. How does that work? Doesn't the referenced section already have a section line? I could understand if there was a viewport to view the existing section already created. But here they are telling you to make another section line for an existing section (which already has its own section line!).Am I making sense?


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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:00:52 AM | Refernce Sections

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Reference other view is just a 2D tool.  It is an annotation that allows you to utilize previously created drafting views or real model views created elsewhere.  It is a "fake" call-out and as such, the callout section line, bubble or elevation line is just that - fake!


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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:17:02 AM | Refernce Sections

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Very well. When you make a callout region, it becomes clear that the detail view within the callout region is another view that is created. But with a reference section, where is that view? That's where I get lost. If the original section line is from left to right across the middle of a building, then when you make a new reference section, it seems I can make it go up-down across the page - which is wrong, because the original section is left-right. So it seems the referene section line has nothing to do with the original section line.

So I am confused by 2 things:

1) where is the view of the referenced section?

2) how is it that the section line of the referenced section can have nothing to do with the actual correct section line?

 


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Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:45:24 AM | Refernce Sections

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Please re-read my post.  This is simple! 

A reference view is dumb!!!! It is just an annotation - it has nothing to do with the model or the views direction. 

 

So if you have one wall section in the east wall that is completely detailed... and a wall section in the north wall would look exactly the same if cut and detailed, then why repeat your work?  You simply use the reference other view and "fake" cut a new section in the north wall but reference the east wall's section.  One view - total 2 references but only the east wall one is the real section cut.  If you change the north wall, the section doesn't change.  If you change the east wall, the section changes.

 

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