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MarcusJ1

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Today it took me 8 hours to do something that would have taken me 30 minutes tops in Microstation.  I'm done.  I have been trying to learn Revit for nearly 3 years now.  It's simply insane to me.

I'm not here to bash Revit, so let me stop.

Is there a "go to" post Architecture job?

This job used to be my love, an actual "vacation" from the real world.  I would come in, put my headphones on and draw...  life was good...  time just flew by...  I was actually happy.  I can't even remember what that feels like.  I have tried and tried and tried to learn this and the second I learn something someone decides a different way is better.  Today was some simple plan changes...  but this wall is demoed in this model, this other wall is demoed in a linked model, this new wall is in a different design option, all of this is tied into a room schedule which is tied into a cost estimate....   etc. etc....  it goes on and on....  and it really did take me all day...  there has to be a line some where, where all this everything dependent on something else becomes counter productive.  And this will probably all change back tomorrow.

Anyway...  what do disgruntaled draftsman do besides suicide?  I really feel I will be flipping burgers before the year is out.

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all i can say is i feel you, hang in there.

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sounds like your bosses have been oversold on the promises of revit magic.  we fake stuff occassionally, just like old times.  Luckily we don't work much with reno projects, and I'm thankful for not needing to use demo much.  As for "Design Options"... they piss me off so much.  SO MUCH. 

Often, I just make groups of the options, (IE, library stacks configurations) and freeze them off via worksets.   If it's a dramatic change to major walls and grids and roofs, I'll duplicate the project and make the changes.   I then pester people about making their decision quickly, and move ahead with a new central file at that point if I must. 

I don't see design options as being time-saving in any way, shape, or form. 

It just adds one more layer of confusion. 

I know this is a dirty way of working and might make people cringe, but I also sympathize with Marcus. HOWEVER, I still love revit, and it has saved me from the depression and boredom that Autocad would cause, which is quite the oposite.

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alabaster2513

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i drink a lot.

beer,  jagermeister, vodka, whiskey....

its good therapy

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vector4

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Marcus- nice to see someone being honest.. for the most part revit city is an open-minded forum.. that may make it seem a little less professional at times- but it's worth it.. i don't think i can response to your post much better than what the others have already said- but i do want to say that i agree with how you feel except not too much about "everything dependent on something else becomes counter productive".. if you probably shouldn't constrain anything until revit becomes part of your life.. you might find things have moved around on you but you will have more freedom to move.. i guess i don't know anything else to tell you..

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MarcusJ1

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Thanks everyone.  Probably more just a venting post then anything...  but when my daughter goes off to college next year I really need to find something else to do with my life...  not a clue what that is going to be.

Revit does some amazing things.  Revit also makes me feel very dumb which I am not.  My bosses are easily impressed by shiny new things, that they never have to actually use themselves...  plus a couple of people in the office are really good at it, so some don't really understand my frustration at all.  And I've been on the other side of it when we used Microstation and I knew that program frontwards and backwards, and I had to help and answer the questions of others that didn't "get" Microstation...  and I'd answer the same questions day after day and didn't understand why they couldn't understand.  Now I am "that guy".  I don't want to be "that guy".

I always say drawing in 3D will only make sense when we start building in 4D.  I know that isn't exactly true, but it comforts me for some reason.  haha.

It's like someone coming to me and asking me to change the tire on a car.

"Sure that's easy, I've changed a tire on a car a million times, no problem."

--"Oh, one more thing you have to use your feet."

"Uhh...  ok this may take a while and be very frustrating...  why can't I use my hands?"

--"Because using your feet is better and it leaves your hands free to change the oil at the same time...  What's the problem?"

"Uhh..."

If anyone wants to start an "Occupy Revit" protest count me in.

Thanks again. 

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Marcus- thanks for sharing that with us..

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Jerome111

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Marcus:

My advice, would be to quit thinking about your revit file as the end all... it is not, the building is the product not the drawing. I see it as a process to ensure that everyone using your product (the drawing) has a clear understand of what is to be done. If a process gets in the way of that I eliminate it. Also if it takes "all day" to communicate your clear intent... then take the time to do it. If there is a work around do it... There are parts of revit that I find cumbersome but find there is usually some other way to do the same thing. As an example... I don't like how revit does countertops..so we created a floor type called "countertop" and use floors to create our countertops. (much to some revit experts cringe)... but this works for us... I just hired a revit guru to create floor based sinks (only because I did not have the time) saving us additional steps in creating kitchen and bath layouts. as a long time autocad user revit was a difficult transition, but I have enjoyed the journey (so far) There are other things that make me rethink my career choice ... but it is not revit.

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MarcusJ1

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thanks jerome...  but I'm kind of over it...

I have certain office standards I have to follow, and our models get shared with multiple consultants and now even end models are being turned over to clients...  so everything kind of has to be what it is supposed to be.  We also keynote tag by the material, so I'm not sure how we would get a floor to tag as a counter-top etc.

I am getting my daughter into college next fall and quitting.  I'm truely past mad and am now sad...  kind of disappointed in myself actually.  I let this this program destroy a 21 year career I truely loved.  But things change, what is meant to be will be.

I drew by hand in high school and college and for the first 5 years on the job...  that's 14 years.  I was total sold on CAD in 2 weeks...  TOTALLY.  I've been on Revit for 3 years...  taken college courses on it... been to Autodesk University in Vegas...  it's just not for me, and it's time I admit that to myself or I will never be happy again.   

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Jerome111

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Sounds like our careers are very similar. I have been using revit for almost 6 years. Really was not sold on it until last year, but most of my work is on the creative side of things. The grinds of clients gets old for me and I don't do well with thoses that do not appreciate the work that we do. If I could make money at it, I would still be drawing by hand.

 My father always gave me a good piece of advice that I don't necessarily live by... but it always make me smile...

his quote: "Don't worry... nothing is going to be alright"

Good luck

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