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kcaparella

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Hi all! I'm using Revit MEP 2011 and I've linked in all necessary arch and struct models, set up my views, and am currently working on a face based door family with yes/no and text shared parameters for door hardware (I have done this in order to schedule these door hardware componenets... see: http://www.revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=25605 for more info on that). Nested in this family I have placed a detail tag in plan view. This detail tag has types setup for each detail #/sheet (I used labels and set the text for each type - for example: the text in the tag reads "01A/SC3.0" and the type for that is titled "01A"). In my door hardware family I have set up types to reflect different detail #s also by checking which hardware componenets need to be scheduled for each (for example: 01A is the type and has a door position switch (DPS), data connection (DATA) check boxes "on" and cardreader (CR) text set to internal (INT), and door type text set to single door (SD). 02A has different "componenets" filled in... etc. etc.). My intent is to have the nested detail tag change when I change the type of door hardware family I select (so basically if I were to change the type of the door hardware family from "01A" to "02A" the nested detail tag would change type from "01A" to "02A" as well). I'm not 100% sure if this can be done or not? I would think so (maybe a formula for the parameter or something?), but I'm wrong all the time so who knows?... Really, who knows?! lol if you do any help would be greatly appreciated! I have attached the door hardware and detail tag families to this post for you to look at but if you figure it out I would like a walkthrough rather than the files sent back with the "fix" (give a man food and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life sorta thing...). Thanks in advance for taking time to read this post. Again, any help at all would be greatly appreciated! -Kcaparella

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Sorry but I find your question very hard to read.  Paragraphs would help or an outline of what you want.

I don't like nested annotations of any sort.  I would rather place another (door) tag that reads your family's parameters.... Or redo the door tag you are using for this.

Have you downloaded the "families guide" from the autodesk site.  In there you will learn how to control nested families and the rules for instance vs type parameters.

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I applogies about the formatting of my last post. In the future I will remember to break it down better.<br><br>

I'm not liking nested annotations right now either, and they're obviously not liking me as I can't even get them to show up in plan view in my project. I had it set up that way before but my boss wanted it done this way so as to "streamline the process by not having to change two types every time there is a change". Guess he's SOL tho. <br><br>

I had not downloaded the families guide until now. Thanks for all the help again WWHub! +rep

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I did figure it out tho. I added a family type: generic annotations parameter (DET TAG) to the hardware family linked to my detail tag.

Then I went through every type in the hardware family and changed the value on the DET TAG parameter to match.

After that, in plan view I clicked the annotation object and just below the ribbon there is an option titled "label". I selected DET TAG = ... and voila! It works now!

I was thinking about it and I could also give the annotation an offset horizontally and vertically and dimension it. Then give the dimensions an instance parameter in order to be able to "move" the annotation in the project later down the line if it blocks important model information. :D

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** This annotation does not show up in plan view tho and as far as I can tell there is no "maintain annotation orientation" option for this face-based door family** .... Bubble = Busted

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