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jlurie

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How are architects and interior designers "sharing" the walls when they work together.  If the architect has the walls in his workset, how does the interior designer add a tile or other finish to the wall?  If you trace the wall with just a thin 1/4" wall, the doors from the main model will not cut thru the tile finish.  We have successfully worked out the ceilings by putting them in the ID model in a ceiling workset, and then the architect links our revit model into his, but the wall finish part doesn't seem to have a good solution like this.  In my design phase, I created a copy of the architects model, and then altered the walls, added finish layers and so on.  I made the finishes smart which really expedited tagging the finishes in my interior elevations.  But now, the architect is refining the wall layout for various MEP coordination and now its not very effective for me to have a copy that I have to keep updating, I'd rather link his model so I get all his updates automatically, and I'd like my wall finishes to keep "sticking" to the main architecture model.  We are both using Revit 2011.

If there is another post on this already, I did not find, please advise.

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Erik

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We 'paint' the thin finishes, like paint and tiles. We add a second wall for items with real thickness (say 5cm) like a dado or a feature stone cladding.  If it has a door in it, we join the walls and the door will cut the both walls.  'paint' is stuck on the wall, but the two-wall system is not, so if you move one wall they will be separated

Flooring we add on top of the structural floor.  Floors generally move with the bounding walls

You must 'own' or be able to 'borrow' the elements you are working on.  This we generally do by agreement, say interior work on on certain levels and the architects work on diferent levels or we can do by worksharing, this would depend on the complexity of the project and the size of the team

It sounds as if you are working from different locations and using indepandadnt files?

Revit is not so good at that, unless you have more sophisticates computer links.  We do all in-house and work in a part of the world where BIM is still a mystery :-)

I do not know if this enlightes anything?

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I have done this for a separate Interior Design firm.

We linked the architects model into our ours then created thin walls (paint or tile) adjacent to the architects walls.  For doors and windows we used families that were just openings for such and placed them accordingly.  Floor finishes were modeled as floors (finish) on top of architects.  The ID needs to have walls to place wall hosted items (base trim, wall railings, cabinets, etc) and at the time this was the best solution. A very large project.

This all worked fine, the downside being that with each updated architects link I would spend 1-3 hours looking thru and adjusting our walls, openings, and floors (this got faster each time).  The odd thing was that I would find that some walls in the architects model would move slightly - everytime - I never found out if the architect did actually move the wall or if something else was going on.

Hope this helps a bit

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jlurie

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This kind of sounds like what I expected - thanks for the help.  At least I know I'm not the only one struggling with this.  In my case, we are two separate offices - so I get a copy of their Revit Model each time they re-post it to an FTP.  I'm hoping eventually Revit will come up with a better way to "stick" finishes on to walls, so we don't have to go thru the 1-3 hour process each time of updating - which kind of defeats the purpose of "revise-instantly".  Never-the-less, still much better than the old way in cad.

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I will say that if you have the same person go thru the model after each new Architect download, it will get faster, those same eyes, become accustomed to what and where to look for things that need adjusting.

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