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zaklee

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I've created a shaft opening in phase "New Construction". No matter what I do the shaft is also visible in the existing phase. Is this normal or am I doing something stupid?

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You might have a problem with this because a shaft cuts the floor.  I think you would be better to have a seperate floor sketched in this opening and demo it in the other phase.

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zaklee

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Good idea. I employed another low-tech solution: I turned off floor surface patters and then made the shaft opening lines invisible with linework. Good enough for now.

The shaft opening SHOULF work like a door such that the floor is intact in the existing view, shows the opening cut dashed in a demo view and as a void in the new construction view. Similarly, if you were to delete a shaft it should show the extents dashed in the demo view and show a new floor infill in the new construction view.

Sadly, this is not the case...

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Lochnesska

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The problem of creating a new floor sketch for the new phase is that it will be an entire floor created in next phase and so if I use the graphic filters for the different phases the floor will display as NEW instead of a small piece that is no more there...

What I did when I started thinking about this problem is that I made an opening in the actual floor, I made another one floor that fills the opening and I joined them - so in exi phase there is no difference and in the next phase I simply demolished this part of floor. Better than the phase not-sensitive shaft.

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ihakki

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The attached famility will add an opening to a surface and it can be phased.  It also adds an 'X' to the view.  If you don't like the X, edit the family to remove it.  X & Y are instances.  Z is a type parameter.

It's not as cool as a shaft.  In order to link to other floors, turn on underlay, align and lock the edges.  A lot of work, but a workable workaround.

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CombatPotato

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I use model-in-place voids.  After you create the extrusion, select and cut any surface you want with a single void.  Ceilings, floors, and walls should be easy.  Sometimes, the void opening cannot be edited.  If this happens.  Delete and redraw the void cut.

This phases.

I find it very useful for compelx residential roofs and multi-story buildings.

Any better ideas out there?

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billgilliss

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Some Model-In-Place components can be phased this way, some apparently can't. Modeling-in-Place as a void stair component worked for me - it was a stair opening I was cutting, so that made as much sense as any. Way easier to work with than shafts, too, in terms of selection and adjusting.

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WWHub

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It is really easy just to edit the floor sketch and create the hole.

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