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Can anyone tell me if there is a curse good reason why we are unable to rotate drafting hatch patterns? this is absolutely rediculious! Come on Autodesk!
Edited on: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:33:58 AM
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If you change your drafting pattern to a model pattern you can rotate it any way you like.
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drafting patterns are fixed in the background--they're like a window onto a different plane. For a particularly trippy effect spin around a 3D model with lots of drafting hatches---you'll notice that nothing is actually moving.
It's better to use model hatches in most cases, and if you want to use existing ACAD hatches, you know--for standards--you can add one line of text to any .pat file to make it a model hatch in revit's eyes.
that line is:
;%TYPE=MODEL
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You guys make sense for sure dont get me wrong but using a model pattern doesnt come accross accurately in 3d views - ie. the pattern is scaled inacurately where as using a drafting pattern the pattern holds true to scale. So im still perplexed as to how model type hatches are better if they dont appear visually correct? Hopefully someone can get me a workaround or a program that can rotate my existing patterns so i dont have to do it manually... anyone?
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I'm sorry but you are completely wrong about this. Model patterns do scale correctly per view scale. That is why they exist in Revit.
When you assign a model pattern to a material like concrete block, you never have to worry about how it will be represented in any view because it will always be scaled correctly. Drafting patterns are just 2D. They never scale and will always print the same relative to paper space regardless of the scale of the view.
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yup im an idiot but still dont know why we arent able to rotate them in drafting view? why would model be more important?
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you asked "....why would model be more important?" Because Revit is a model program.
Drafting hatches are important for detail views where you always size them relative to what you are trying to show at that scale. We all agree with you though in why can't you rotate a drafting hatch. You should be able to but you can't. But do learn to use model hatches....
This will be painful for you for awhile.... but the rewards are great once you get rid of your CAD thinking. Hang in there.
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alright alright alright... back the truck up... im all Revit for the last 6yrs... just want to say thank you to all who have participated- i have two other people in my office who use autoca% - (think i just swore hope the RC-admin doesnt put the word "curse" in for that! could get confusing) anyway i watched a guy in my office rotate his hatch pattern within a window and it was a cake-walk- confused the crap out of me as to why i wasnt able to do it! just tried out replacing all of my hatches with model hatch names- works fricking amazing- faster and easier as always than autoca*! This website is "incredible"
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Ok, so we all agree model hatches are better.
but nobody has still answered how you rotate a MODEL hatch?
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hover over a line in the hatch pattern. Hit tab. by default, hatch lines aren't a top-tier item for selection... because if you could select any hatch line , you'd have a hell of a time trying to select anything important.
Once you have a line within the hatch selected, now you can use rotate on it.
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Bingo.
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What I found that wasn't intuitive given the set of defaults that are presented, is that a filled region can be populated with a model pattern. When you go to create a new Filled Region Type, all the OotB examples use drafting patterns, and by default the fill patterns available for creating a new Type are drafting patterns. Just change over to Model patterns and use one of those (if applicable). If it's not, you can "switch" between a model pattern and a drafting pattern by using a text editor to change between the following values in the *.pat file:
;%TYPE=DRAFTING or ;%TYPE=MODEL
better yet create an Model version of your drafting pattern and save it to your library for custom insertion in your next project.
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