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I had thought that when you create a floor, assign the function, that the level it will sit at will be determined by the core boundarys. If you have the finishes above the Core Boundary, and the structure within the Core Boundary, and then you set the contraint to (let's say) Main Level, the top item in the core boundary would sit at the Main Level.
Am I wrong about this?
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Not sure if it is different in the structural package or not, but what you should do to make your life simpler, is add in an extra level, OR define your levels as Face of Finish. If you want your slab to be associated with say, 1st level, and yet you want the finish to be above the level (i.e.- you are mapping it to face of slab, not face of finish) then you need to modify the height offset from level and offset it by the thickness of your floor finish...
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Structure is set up a little different than architecture. When placing beam and beam systems etc. they generally will be drawn with the top of beam at the level of concern. Then the slab or other floor system will need to be established above it like Trent said. I usually do not place my finishes in the floor system model but rather place them afterward as a separate floor because I usually have many differing floor finishes i.e. tile, wood, carpet vinyl etc. on the same basic floor type.
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mbsteve: that is what I will do. Good plan. Thanks for clarification.
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Question for you guys. When I was in Arch 2009, I could never get MY deck to show up properly, i.e. the Pan Deck would only show in parallel, I could never get it to show perpendicular. BUT if i copied structural's slab/floor, I would get it. But the moment I edited that copied floor, the pan deck would once again show only in parallel. Is this still the case, and any ideas why?
I've always wondered on this one, whether it was design intent, or just an "Oops" on autodesk's part.
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Structure has a different layer call Structural Deck (1) that when used allows for a deck profile to be added.
I can't recall if it has always had the layer or not, but I always remember there be a structural dek profile option.
Edited on: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:48:59 PM
Edited on: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:50:15 PM
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Architecture 2009 had it also... but it never worked. It would only show the parallel cut, never perpendicular (the ribbing? When it goes down, flat, up flat, so forth). I worked closely with our structural guys back then to make it happen, but the second I modified any of their stuf, i.e. changed the sketch (which I had to do CONSTANTLY because they for some reason wouldn't match ours) then I'd lose the pandeck in the sections. IF i copied their floor and didn't modify it, I would have the pan deck profile and it would section beautifuly.
Kinda like MEP which is the flavor I'm using now, I can't place structural slabs, columns, beams, etc. Only architectural columns, and can't place any "structural" components. Also just wondering more, does Arch now have the ability to place connectors in families, or is that only MEP?
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Guess I should use my RAC a bit more..my bad.
you can place connectors in RAC...I can in 2011 but it is is restricted to specific familiy categories
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That is still better than before, I had to give my fixtures and such to my MEP consultants to get them to put the connectors in, which was a nightmare because they barely understood revit.
My experience with Revit is that the Arch package is just way better than the rest, with perhaps Electrical and Plumbing being the two almost ignored trades. I'm not sure as to structural, but I know you guys have the cool ability to make graphic schedules, something which none of the other packages can do to my knowledge and chagrin, because our light fixture schedule shows the symbol of the light fixture then defines everything about said fixture. No automatic way to do this, right?
Oh well, thanks for answers, and sorry to ask here vs a new thread.
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