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TeamNga

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Hello everyone.

I am looking for ideas to help me in the development of Revit where I work.

Here is what I need. A way to model and extract in a schedule molding around my metal cladding. (see my ELEVATION sketch.) Each line represents a different molding.

I started with wall sweeps. It works great for the base and the corners of my walls. It worked alright for my door jambs using the grips to get the length I want. Not so great for my door headers. Since the wall sweep stretches the entire length of a wall, I found it time consuming to have to create a new sweep and use the grips each time to get the lengths needed for all my different door headers. Then I tried doing a diagonal sweep. From what I know, it can't be done.

So I thought I would do all this using a lined based generic model. Everything was going fine until I noticed that when my jambs get too close to my headers they join together like walls do. (see me Detail-1 and Detail-2.) I even tried changing the categories. I set one to mechanical equipment and the other to parking thinking it might stop them from joining. No luck. Does anyone know how to stop two generic models to join together?

Any ideas on what would be better. Wall sweeps or Generic models. Or meaby something else.

My goal is to have all my moldings in the same schedule.

Thanks for the help.

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It doesn't appear that you understand categories? 

Every family can be classified by category.  Generic model is just a generic starting point.... until you set it correctly.

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TeamNga,

I had a similar situation in the past

but I haven't come across with any completed solution on this issue (in addition to have everything in schedule)

I am sure Revit doesn't allow you to use sweep at a wall with edit profile. so that leaves it to be done as a in-place family or (I made a facebased generic family) to do the molding.

in your situation, I would suggest maybe create a face based family and change it to specialty equipment or something else (don't try to schedule things with generic family, although they can be done) with a shared parameter (length) set up, then you can use it for all these conditions..... the catch is that, you won't have a nice mitar join any the corners. also, this way, you can forget wall sweep altogether.

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Thanks pcahn.

That is what I started doing.

But our architect is really picky. He wont allow messed up corners.

So what I did is a mix of the two. Generic model and wall sweep. I did like you said a lined based family for all my horizontal moldings and wall sweeps for all my vertical moldings. That way they dont join at the corners. And I can live with two seperate schedules.

Thanks.

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vector23

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the system host wall sweet is a quick way to put a

sweep on a wall according to whatever profile you

have to choose from.. there are some controls but

they are limited- same as with a system wall- quick

but limited..

if you want to make a slanted wall in a complex

variety of shapes- then you need to make it in-place..

same with sweeps.. with an in-place sweep you can

put it anywhere you want and make it do anything

you want.. you can also make an in-place family any

category you want..

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