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Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 12:58:58 AM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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My firm is looking at switching to Revit. A lot of our work is TI projects where we are doing demo and new construction on only a portion of the building. We have or receive autocad files from our clients. From what I have seen Revit is great if you're starting from scratch, but what about remodeling a portion of an existing building?

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Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 7:22:48 AM | RE: Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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hi from oz we began using revit in march this year, and mostly deal with extensions, including options occasionally. so we had to get our heads around phasing very quickly. it was so easy, once we did the tutorials. we love that part of revit. improved our productivity enourmously. try it!

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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:03:31 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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I am kind of in the same boat...

 I am an experienced Revit user and just joined a firm that wants to implement Revit. One of our clients (a national retailer) is in the process of having all of their store remodels done in Revit. These are TI projects, for the most part. All of their furniture and fixtures, as well as the schematic layour, will be provided in a Revit file. 

 My boss wants to switch entirely to Revit. Only problem is that we have 1 license currently and really only one revit user (me). All of our other clients/consultants deal in AutoCAD. Does it make sense, from a time/money standpoint, to invest in the switch to Revit? I remember reading on the AUGI forums a detailed post as to why it didn't but I could not locate it. I would like to switch fully to Revit, but at the same time I am skeptical that we would be able to produce drawings as quickly as we can in CAD, given that the projects we do are small TI for retailers and concessionaires. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:05:56 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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I'm not sure exactly how this works but when we switched to Revit, we still have an AutoCAD license as well.   You should check with your provider. 

 

Just an FYI.  Unlike AutoCAD, you really want to be on a subscription with Revit.  As you know, Revit can not be saved down and almost every office moves up with each release.  That means if you have consultants, you both need to be on the same release.  In addition, with subscription, you get additional tools.


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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:20:09 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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The "revit architectural suite" incudes Autocad, Autocad Architecture, and Revit.  We have that on subscription, and it allows us a little more flexibility. 

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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:43:38 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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I don't think my question was clear enough...

 

What I want to know is if my company can still be profittable charging the same fees for the same project except doing everything in revit instead of CAD. We work on extremely tight fees, just like everybody else, and I'm worried that our investment in Revit, both in training and software cost, will never be recouped. Any thoughts?


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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:17:03 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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i was a very early respondent to this thread, hence my reply now.

we have used revit since jan 2005, autocad since 1990.  we have 4 licences, 3 as revit/autocad, one as revit.  i would recommend anyone to have the revit/autocad version as it does not cost much extra.  in fact we will convert the standalone revit to revit/autocad, very soon, for much much less than buying autocad or autocadLT.  having both is very helpful as many consultants use autocad, latest version, and every once in a while we have to revert to autocad to resurrect an old job.

now the question of switching.  this is very much a strategic matter.  the world is or has shifted to 3d, especially revit.  if you don't plan to join in, you may lose out on projects.  you definitely will lose them in the future.  i would suggest your office sets in train a full plan of switching over a period of time.  it will cost time and money, but the steam roller is rolling towards you, and becoming a TGV.  we switched overnight, at the time with 3 of us in the office.  it was painful to say the least.  but the benefits were felt within 1 month.  we invested (me especially) lots of time in learning it, including families, and that helped us even more.

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Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:08:27 PM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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Mr. Latemore,

 

What type of projects does your office do? In my office, as I said, the vast majority of our work is TI. The full, 100% CD architectural set usually consists of about 15-20 sheets. We typically do floor plan, fixture plan, interior and storefront elevations, a few sections, and a few sheets for details (the bulk of which are millwork details provided to us by the client in CAD). Believe me, I love Revit and will continue to push for its use when justified but I can't see how we could make it work in this environment. 

 

I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks.


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Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:17:01 AM | Tenant Impovements and existing AutoCAD files

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we do lots of residential renos and extensions, new houses, occasional multi-res and commercial.  so revit is ideal.  rarely would do something like commercial interiors, but must admit when we have, prefer revit for it.

from the sounds of it, i'd strategize that you should maintain autocad for your TI work, and plan to implement revit over time.  in the short term, i'd suggest revit might be better for any other type of work you do, so the change over, if it occurs, can flow a bit better.


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