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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:39:30 AM | Framing Plans for residence

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Working on a residential house project, and need to do some framing plans showing floor joist sizes and directions, and roof rafters. It's a farily large complex house, so some columns required in basement, LVL's etc. 

I'm new to Revit, wondering what the best way to approach drafting the structural members is, should I use a structural beam system? When I do I end up with joist where I dont want them, and have to move everything. Maybe better to just start with a single beam, then copy it around? Looking for suggestions on best way to approach this so I'm not spending a month placing structural elements. Thanks.  Using Revit Architecture 2011. 


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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:21:19 AM | Framing Plans for residence

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As with everything in a revit project, you have to consider if it needs to be modeled or not.  Ask yourself:

  1. Do you need to see these items in 3D?
  2. Will these items be scheduled?
  3. Will these items be reported in a material take-off?
If all of those answers are no, then maybe a simple framing plan like this should be done as 2D line work and notes.

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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:21:53 PM | Framing Plans for residence

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Thanks, your point is well taken. Working with structural elements is something I want to get my head around for future use. If you know of any good tutorials specific to framing plans, that would be very helpful.

I'm running into problems like: how to get the elements to show up in a view when they are out of the view plane. Because of how views are set up for framing plans, you are showing 1st floor framing on what is essentially a basement plan. I'm getting the warning that element are not visible. 

I watched the youtube video from CadClip "The Ultimate Framing Plan", as helpful as it was, it didn't give enough info to go forward with, for obvious resons. 

Anyone know the trick to making these structural elements visible? The video hinted that the secret sauce is in the family setting somewhere. 


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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:40:54 PM | Framing Plans for residence

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You can set different view ranges in Revit.  For a floor framing plan, I would use the floor level and change my depth to include framing elements (deeper than the level).   Structural elements can be shown in coarse mode (single line) or model - medium & fine modes.  And to show the framing, you would turn off the floor.

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Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:50:37 AM | Framing Plans for residence

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Thanks again. At our office, we usually would show the basement walls on the same plan as the 1st floor framing. So your suggestion would be to duplicate the basement plan, rename to 1st floor framing, and then change the  View Range to cut through the overhead structural beams and joists? 

Or would it be better to start with the 1st floor, Duplicate it, and change the View Range to cut below the floor showing the structural members? The only problem I see with this is that the stairs will not show correctly - because I am supposed to be showing basement level plan stair, not 1st floor stair. 

 


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