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Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:07:36 PM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Guys, I'm trying to make this door open and close as I type the angle. I also want to change its type by changing a parameter, that's why I have two nested families inside this family. The problem is: as I lock the endpoint to those two reference plans with the red arrows and change the number of the 'Offset interior' and 'Width', the vertical lock never works!!! I've already spent so much time trying to find out what is going wrong but I give up. If I lock just one of them (whichever one) it works. If I lock both, the vertical always gives me headache.

I'm sending both the printscreen and the actual file so you can have a look. Any help would be very appreciated. 



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Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:57:34 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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I think that this is an issue of control the work plan of the imported door panel. The door panel always moves with its work plan, so if you can create a work plan and make it rotate around the left of the door, this problem can be solved.

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Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:01:50 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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We've made a try. You can add a reference line which can be rotate around the left of the door, and constrain the left end of the reference line. Add another reference line on the elevation, and its work plan is the previous reference line. Please see screen shots below.

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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:37:08 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Hi Blazarch, thanks for the help but theres something I don't understand. When you say "Add another reference line on the elevation, and its work plan is the previous reference line." When I change my view to an elevation, the work plane automatically changes to "Center (Left/Right)" or "Center (Front/Back)" and it doesn't allow me to pick the reference line I drew in plan. How am I gonna draw this reference line?

Also, even if I draw it, what diference is it gonna make?

Sorry, I didn't understand what I'm supposed to do...

(the reference line I drew in plan works and flexes perfectly)


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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:26:08 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Our thought is that, in this family, the door panel has two “degree of freedom”.

The first is rotating around the left end of the door (when you change the open angle). The other is changing its position along the radial (when you change the door width). 

The first reference line is to constrain the first degree of freedom.The second reference line is to constrain the second degree of freedom.

On the plan, you can use this tool “Home>Set work plan>pick a plan” and select the vertical plan by “Tab”.


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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:57:29 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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We've modified this family, please see attached below. Maybe there would be some easier way to make it work well.

There are four steps to make this family work.1. Use the first reference plan as the work plan line is binding these two reference plan and let them rotate together. 2. Put the door panel on the plan, choose the second reference line as the work plan, the door panel center point will be set its position. 3. Add an angle parameter to control the first reference line to rotate around the left end. Also apply this parameter to the door panel for rotating around its center point. 4. Add a dimension parameter to control the center position, which should be related to the door width.



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Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:07:02 PM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Hey Blazarch, that's pretty amazing how you made this family work. I really appreciate the time you spent on it.

After your first 2 posts I kept on doing research because I couldn't understand what you meant and that was bugging me.

I found out that if I started a Generic Model Face Based and loaded it onto my door family I could host it to any reference plane/line. I just had to remake my door panel a bit differently. Instead of having the ref.plane on its bottom I had to make it on its front so I could pick the vertical ref.plane of the ref.line I drew in plan and host it there. Its a bit complicated to explain but I attached the file anyway. I think this way ended up being less confusing.

Thanks, mate. 



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Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:48:15 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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My handles don't want to work now...  :-(

Only the one on the exterior side works... Any thoughts?



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Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:02:49 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Hi fabioloretti, it's a better way to modify the door panel and it looks clearer and easier. 

For the handles, the work plans of these two handles were different. For the one works well, its work plan is on the door panel which is vertical. For the one doesn't work, its work plan is on the horizontal.

When you put a component, it's important to define a correct work plan first. We've modified the work plan of the handle, so it works.



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Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:38:36 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Hi Blazarch, thanks again for the response.

You are right. But have you noticed that if I change the panel type from glass center to plain panel one of them loses its work plane and the other one adjusts and works perfectly? Any idea why that happens?

Also, if you select the one that is not working properly and check its properties, it shows an elevation value in relation to the floor instead of its work plane. The other one doesn't do that... I have no idea why this is happening...


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Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:23:32 AM | DOOR FAMILY not working properly

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Hi fabioloretti.  We haven't found out what cause the failure when using "place on face" or "place on work plan", but we've found that when we place the one not working properly, use the“Place on vertical face” and select the vertical plan of the reference line, it then works.

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