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Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:01:58 PM | best practice for copy/monitor

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We have some shear walls which belongs to structural company. But we need put doors and windows on those shear walls. So after read help of Revit for the copy/monitor, I think this the solution for this. I think one side (architecture side or the structure sidel) should lead on this part, the other side copy it from the linked model and keep monitor it. Thus both sides have more control on these overlapped parts, and also can keep them identical.

I sent an email to our structural consultant and ask their opinion about this. But they told me they only use this for grids and levels. They also told me from their experience use copy/monitor for walls and other stuffs cause more problems than it solves.

Do you have the same experience or impression of copy/monitor like this? What's the best practice for this tool? And what is the best practice to handle the gray zone between architecture part and structure part?

 


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Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:15:14 PM | best practice for copy/monitor

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Copy monitor is a pain because it requires due dilligence.  You have to follow up on the changes and many people just fail to do that.  The system works if you do.

 

For structural walls, we let the structural engineer own tham and we copy monitor theirs.  We start off by creating the initial walls and they just copy them.  Then we delete our original and CM theirs.  BUT!!!  They still need o look at our changes when we make them.


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Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:07:02 PM | best practice for copy/monitor

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As the architect I would focus on the doors & windows and hope the S.Eng to focus on the shear wall and its openings.

You should be able to use face-attached families that could be set to attach to any of the faces of either adjacent elements of the architecture model that still perform as a door or window. You could even attach to faces of the shear wall in the linked S.Eng model. There might be link-based drop-out-of-hosted-element issues with the latter option, and I don't know how well either would work should you be doing any MEP-esque-based analysis of enclosed volume performance, but both should work "visually"Winking

I think the key thing to draw upon is that one of the core strengths of BIM is to facilitate improved collaboration between the numerous project disciplines and the refinement of each other's packages through the building and 3D exploration of coordinated models. 


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