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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:30:18 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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Working in Revit Architecture 2011.

In plan I have set the project North offset from true North for main bulk of project within layouts.  However one part of building is 10° offset from the project North.  In detailed plans of that area I wish them to appear parallel with the sheets for that part of the project.

Is this possible within Revit?


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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:55:10 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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Just click on the crop region of the plan and rotate that.  This does not rotate project north, it only rotates the view in relation to the screen and sheet.  All annotations will remain normal to the screen and sheet.

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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:15:35 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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When I click on and highlight the crop region on plan the rotate tool in modify is disabled/greyed out. 

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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:55:04 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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Works just fine here.  Read this topic in your HELP:>  Rotating a View by the Crop Region

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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:19:50 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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Thanks for the link to the help menu instructions; that is just now I understood your assistance above.  However, when I try it in my current project the rotate (and mirror) tools are disabled. I've opened a number of previous projects to experiment and the same thing happens in them all.

I set up a new project and template from scratch and the procedure worked perfectly as described in help.  Anyone have any thoughts on why procedure would be disabled on development of a project templete/mature building in drafting?


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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:40:56 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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You write : " ...Anyone have any thoughts on why procedure would be disabled on development of a project templete/mature building in drafting". 

  • Are you doing this in a template? - Why?
  • If this is a drafting view then of course you can't rotate the view.
What are you really doing?

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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:18:28 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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When I attempt the procedure described in the Help menu and by yourself above, the rotate tool (and mirror) are disabled when I select crop region.  I am doing this within a plan view.  This happens in all of the plans within the current project I'm working on and a number of other projects I've opened to compare.

I started a new project to experiment and the procedure worked perfectly as described, i.e. opened new project, in plan view drew four walls, selected crop region (of plan) and was able to rotate plan view as required.

My question (now, because the original question is solved) is; what can be causing the function to be disabled in my current project (and others).  The job has many phases, a number of buildings on the same plan and imported topography.  Can I have alterated any setting which prevents rotating the crop region of plan views? 


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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:36:33 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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My answer is that there is no setting that I know of that will prevent you from rotating a crop region.

Try this as a test in your current project >> Create a new floor plan by clicking View/ Plan Views? Floor plan (uncheck"Do not duplicate existing views"Winking and pick a level.  Now see if that view will rotate.


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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:26:45 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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That works!

I've traced the problem to your suggestion 'unchecking, "Do not duplicate existing views" '. 

My plans were all generated from a master plan of each level by right click 'Duplicated View,  - Duplicate with Detailing '. Going back to the master plan allows me to rotate the cropped plan region, however it does not allow me to rotate the duplicates.

How about a third question in this series; can the (duplicate) plans be altered retrospectively to rotate?

 


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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:32:11 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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I don't understand why the duplicated views don't rotate - never tried I guess - but you can copy paste all annotative stuff from one view to the other and it should be fine - then delete your old views and correct text rotation.

 

BTW - I duplicated a view with text and other items on it and it rotated just fine.  There must be something else in your model.

 

Try that again with one of your fully developed views.



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Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:41:51 AM | Plan Orientation - possible to have two separate within same project?

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Many thanks for all the help.

I've aready accepted your proposed suggestion and in process of redrafting new plans (that can be rotated).   

 


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