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archie456

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Hi,

I’ve come across a problem with the way I would like to set up my detailing, and I now realise this is due to how Revit works.

I would appreciate comments on how others do this.

I’ve created my Revit model, then created a detail call out of the external wall, full height from foundation to the eaves on floor 2 – I’ve then annotated and want to put this on an A1 sheet at 1:20.

Now usually in AutoCAD we would then zoom into parts of this and produce 1:5 or 1:2 details from it, the advantage being that if the 1:20 detail is updated then the larger scale details will also update.

It seems that this cannot be achieved in Revit because of this:

-          The 1:20 detail can only be used once on a sheet and you cannot rescale it to a larger size without changing the scale of the original 1:20 drawing.

-          I could duplicate it with detail, but this would produce a duplicate that would be completely separate from the original and would require us to update everything twice.

-          I can’t do another callout of the model as this would mean drawing the detail again from scratch.

So how to you other chaps in the Revit world produce large detailed sections through a wall then produce small blow up details of all the constituent parts?

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This is easy, create your callout area on the original view.  Window it and filter for all annotations and 2D work (lines, detail elements, filled regios, cut profile) copy those to clibboard, open the callout view and paste same place.  Done.

Now when you change scale, you may still have to adjust where text and dimensions are because thew will still be their set size which will be comparitively larger than the parent view.  (Something that would not happen in CAD so I doubt you really did that.  Text there would have grown larger with the view scale.)

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archie456

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But that doesn't create any link between the 1:20 detail and the large scale one?

If I have an update to do, then I have to do it twice to both details?

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Your right, there is no link.

But I don't understand.  I believe a detail is "detailed".  I believe a wall section is not detailed and contains contextual information.  I don't put everything in my small scale view because it only creates coordination issues.  (AND again, I don't believe there was any way you did this in CAD because the text size would be wrong in the enlarged views.)

But ....that is my opinion.

BTW - other than dimensions and text, all other detail elements can be grouped and then if they are changed in one view, they will change in the other.   (And obviously, you would not want to include text and dimensions because they would be in the wrong place or format in one view or the other because they stay the same printed size.)

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archie456

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OK. I suppose I just need to change my way of details to that whcih suits Revit.

I suppose I could just use the model for the 1:20 section and not have it as detailed as I'm used to.

Thanks for your response.

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