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iamian33

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Greetings.

Is is possible to tag a Glass with unique/sequential numbers?  

I am preparing LEED Daylight Calculcations and need to uniquely identify each pane of glazing, or at the least, each window, curtainwall, storefront and door (w/ glass).  The tag muct be:

• visible/printable in elevation and plan and
• the unique ID number must show in a material schedule. 

I have tried a multi category tag, window tag and material tag ... but none of these.  I also tried to create a new Annotation Symbol with no success. 

The Material Tag seemed to be the best option because it sees all pieces of glass, but I can't find a way to uniquely number each piece. 

What type of tag should I use? What kind of parameter should I create to do this.  Automatic numbering would be nice too ... but I'll be happy to be able to tag and schedule the glass panels.

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If all your glazing is done as curtain walls this is more achieveable.  If you are using a combination of windows and curtains walls then you'll need 2 different methods unless you really want to go to a lot of work in your window families and make all the individual panes nested "shared" families.  Then add a shared parameter for the instance mark to all curtain wall panels and window families...

Revit will not automatically sequentially number them, only the mark parameter of doors, windows and rooms have this capability.  There are some API addon's out there that do automatic renumbering.

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Material tags are not the way to go.

You can create a tag for all of the curtain wall panels ... start with the generic tag template and set it to family category and parameters - Curtain Panel Tags... then read the mark number.  These tags can appear in plans / elevations/ sections and you can schedule the panels.

You would have to use window tags / door tags for those glazed units.  If you did this process.

Another method would be to use a multi-category tag that uses a new shared parameter.  That would work across all families.

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Thanks for your responses ...

I feel that the Multi-tag might be best for this process as there will be glazing in doors, windows, curtain wall and storefront.  I'd prefer to use just 1 tag for all as this will become a company-wide process that needs to be as straight-forward as possible.   

1. The draw-back to multi-category tags is that I can't Tag All.  Not so bad as each glass pane will need a unique number for scheduling. 
2. Another draw-back I've found is that I cannot tag the individual pieces of glass within a door, with the mc tag (like thte material tag).  Any suggestions?

But the other issue is my inexperience with creating shared parameters.  I am currently researching this thru the users' manual and other sources.  Guidance would be appreciated, but I will (hope to) figure this out in short order.

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Within the door family, you will have to place a shared family for each glass that contains your shared parameter.  Then it will tag.

That family could just contain an invisible line and you place it in elevation over each pane of glass in the family.  The invisible line gives location so that you can find it for tagging.

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Thanks again for your suggestion, but I don't feel that the addition of a "shared family for each glass that contains your shared parameter" will work.  Wouldn't the schedule then be listing the properties of this new 'shared family' and not the properties of that piece of glazing? 

The curious thing in all this is that the Material Take-off schedule that I have created shows 3 parameters that would suffice for the tag, I just can not create such a tag that will both 'see' the glass and 'show' the parameter ... the attached PDF shows the schedule I have created.  It contains 3 parameters: GLAZING IDENTIFIER, MARK, TYPE MARK. 

• glazing identifier - I created this project parameter
• mark & type mark - sadly not material:mark & material:typemark

I can not figure a way to create a tag that would show these parameters and see the glass (in a door).  But this schedule and the Properties dialogue show this information. 

If you (or anyone else) feel like getting further into this, I'd certainly appreciate the input.  I have attached the RVT file as well. 

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Hello iamian33, can you e mail me the RVT file? I will love to see it.

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Sorry I cannot provide any update as I abandoned this approach - convinced my colleagues that this was not the right path.  This was to employers ago, any information I might have had was left on their network.

Hope you find what you are looking for ...

Ian

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