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Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:40:32 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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So we've our "site" model playing host to 5 seperate model files in which we prepare our sheet views for issuing (once combined) from out of our "site" model.

 

Oddly today we noticed that when linking to the model views (in the "site" model) the views come through okay, but the tags shift out of place... the model data is all fine, the tags just don't come through as they appear in the models themselves.

 It's a consistent "shift" - so I'm wondering if it has anything to do with recent "relocate project" exercises we've applied to some of the models... Any one else ever experienced this?


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Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:52:25 AM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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No one? No ideas? This is starting to really bug us.

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Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:05:25 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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So the tags are in the linked models and you are linking by view?

 

Are these tags all tagging the same kind of object?  

 

This sounds like an origin problem - the tag or the element being tagged being defined differently in the host and the hosted models.

 

...oops ... just read that the thread title said it is ceiling plans.   I was confused because you are linking into a site model.   

 

Sorry - but I don't understand.  How do ceilings relate to a "site" model?  Were these ceilings createdin those projects using a linked "site" ... where the ceiling sketches may be cahnged because walls moved in the "site"?  If so, open the linked model and make sure it has the latest "site" in it and see if those tags move there.



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Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:29:04 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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Sorry, I can see how "site" could have misled...

When I'm saying "site" I mean "project site & buildings entire" - essentially one blank model in which we manage our site grid, levels and location AND compile all our views for sheets that talk to the "project site & buildings entire".

We are linking to views setup in each seperate building model, but it's then the tags "jump" from their location (in the linked model's view) to somewhere else in the host view (of the "project site & buildings entire" model) 

I've checked the shared locations of all the models, they are correct & are all linked by shared coordinates into the "project site & buildings entire" model.


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Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:24:27 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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My confusion was because you link the building into a site to do your building drawings.  That then causes you to only use link by view.  W O W !!!!   Seems backwards to me.  I link my site into my building project.  Very few site drawings and all of my building views (many more than site) are available natively.  Thus - I would never have a moving ceiling tag issue.

 

You don't say how big these files are or why you do this.  

 


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Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:47:23 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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I can kind of see where "site" might have thrown you. What I meant was "project site & buildings entire". We do have a "site" model that includes topography, pads, context etc but since we deal in numbers (rather than names) for our models we rarely encounter the confusion...

So to clarify; we have/use one model to setup & maintain project levels, grids & locations. We host all of our models (architectural, site and interiors) into this model for project-overviews, types management, scheduling and for the production of project-wide drawings (ie. "site" plans, long "site" sections, etc) - I've attached a quick sketch...

SO what we have is views in each respective model, some of which are placed into sheets in that model (when they only talk to that building) and others, are set up for linked-views in the "project site & buildings entire" model. It is this latter method, where we are using linked views in the "project site & buildings entire" model, where we're seeing the annotation jump.



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Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:49:50 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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Snowy,

 

I did not have a chance to respond until now.

 

I don't understand why you even have image xx.rvy.  0.1 rvt is all you need with 0.0 linked in, then you don't have any problems. If 0.0 is linked in a workset, you can always turn it off where you don't want it.  Nowyou never have to link by view.


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Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:20:58 PM | Ceiling Plan tags in Linked Model Views "Moving" (2010)

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What my simple-sketch fails to illustrate is that there's more than the one architecture model... there's 6 as we can't really have 1 person juggling so much building*.

 

Hence the multiple-users working on multiple-models making views, all linked into one "overview" model which looks at those linked views.

 

*Unfortunately my predecessor demonised worksets & central file working and I'm still at pains to counter his efforts.


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