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Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03:26 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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I am a new Revit user. I am used to Auto Cad. When I dimension in Revit, and move the dimenion to the side it doesn't give me a 90 degree tail like Auto Cad did. It gives some SPLINE looking leader. Is there something that I am missing?

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Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:31:43 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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Nothing missing.  The arc is the Revit standard.

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Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:41:17 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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I figured thats what it was. I like the program, but I like Auto Cads dimensioning better. Thank's for the help.


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Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:35:31 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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I like Revit's method.  Straight line leaders are ENGINEERING!  I would always rather have arc leaders so that the linework of leaders is not confused with normal orthogonal buildings linework. 

 

Try to follow a long leader when you have a lot of building lines parallel and near it - confusing!


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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:48:33 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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lets not worry about the things the old girlfriend/boyfriend use to do. let enjoy and expand on the things the new girlfriend/boyfriend does. Smile

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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:05:25 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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HA!! Excellent analogy Coreed!!

And not far from the truth at all. Dwelling on the methods of AutoCAD will set you up for a bad experience with Revit, much they way that dwelling on an old gf / bf will likely sour any new relationships.

 

I would not focus on what you see as a negative (arc leader) and focus on the positives.

Like all the positive that come with the ability to dimension objects and not coordinates...giving you the ability to control the model through the dimensions so they are infact accurate.

 

Good luck on you Revit path!



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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:38:33 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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Yeah I see the good points, but my company has standards. Unfortunately I am the only one with Revit so it's up to me to break the news to them every time there is a difference.

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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:45:40 PM | ESCOZA

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Quoting ESCOZA from 2010-09-01 10:38:33

"Yeah I see the good points, but my company has standards. Unfortunately I am the only one with Revit so it's up to me to break the news to them every time there is a difference."

start out by saying

 Dear Autocad (Dear John), Smile

 


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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:47:48 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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Standards.... what are they really?  All of our "Standards" when using CAD were based on the limitations of that product at the time.  Time is changing and you are using a new product.  Yes, it has some limitations that are different than CAD but .... Wow .... as Brett said, focus on what it does (What CAD does not do).

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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:52:26 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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I hear you on the standards, almost all of us using Revit deal with that at some point.

I constantly hear "This is how we do it in AutoCAD" or "It looks like this in AutoCAD."

Perfectly good arguments...I am not dogging people who say that because you are right, there are standards and we expect those standards to be met.

Our company is lucky enough to be large enough that we have a Director of BIM / CAD Technologies and he has made it very clear that Revit is not AutoCAD and that we are not going to make the graphic "look and feel" be consistent across the platforms. Especially considering in some cases...you just don't have an option because that is simply "how Revit works."

In some cases, it irks me pretty bad that Revit limits you, but I quickly get over it.

To be honest, having the benefit of a leader who drew the proverbial line in the sand has made the implementation run a lot smoother than if we tried to make Revit look, feel ,function like CAD.

I really feel you pain though...I hate being the guy who says..."Sorry, not an option."

Good luck!

 


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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:13:04 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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you know what we have now with Revit is what the resellers told us we would have over 20+ some years ago. they just didn't say how long it was going to take. the elimnation of human interaction when it come to perparing cd"s from  Building Information Models is on the horizon. Drafting standards will hard-coded into the software. these type of standards will be true standards and not personal preference. i just hope it dosen't take another 20+ years.

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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:24:33 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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You know...that is an excellent point Coreed.

This industry is changing and it is much needed. With the "Green" movement and the push to reduce carbon footprints and all that, I strongly believe that this industry will eventually transfor more into the digital side rather than paper.

Our company spends a HUGE amount of money for printing...paper, toner, plotter, maintenance...

Huge benefits there that are probably better off for another post...but image some of the cost savings but transitioning to something like dwf's and sending out the electronic versions of our files rather than printed media.

I believe as we move in that direction that the graphic look and feel standards that we have will become less and less important simply because it is not as necessary as it once was.

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Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:08:36 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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This is a really good discussion. We have had the same "Growing Pains" with the transition to Revit. I have had to convince the upper management to slacken the noose on traditional CAD standards and go with the flow. It has been a difficult process but I am glad to see that others are experiencing the same things. It makes me feel better about where we are headed.


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Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:43:41 AM | Dimensioning in Revit

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I am trying to break the "We have been doing this for 40yrs" excuse. It is also difficult for me to get away from the CAD standards.

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Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:44:27 PM | Dimensioning in Revit

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Just to add my two cents. CAD has not been around for 40 years at least not like it is now, most of the standards that people have now are the result of there drafting prior to CAD and that big transformation. Just another change for the better, embrace it.

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