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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:25:39 PM | unusual surface pattern

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 *Using Revit 2011* Is there a way to creat a surface pattern that has a solid fill in the background with parallel lines on top? For my elevations I have lap siding and in some areas will be a different color and would like to show these areas as a grayish hatch with the surface lines over it. As a work around I've been applying a transparent solid filled region to my elevations and using the paint tool to give it a different color in shaded views however the problem is if I do a hidden line 3d view or prespective view the siding appears to be the same. Plus if such a surface pattern could be made i would save a few extra steps of work. Thanks.


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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:42:46 PM | unusual surface pattern

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not that i know of man, sorry.

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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:08:48 PM | unusual surface pattern

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You can place two hatches in the same place..... Add your first linework hatch - copy it in place and change it's properties to a transparent solid fill. 

 

(Note ... you didn't have to draw two outlines ...much easier.)


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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:41:15 PM | unusual surface pattern

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Correct, thats what I'm doing now, however a 3d view does not show a hatch pattern as it is just an annotation. I would like for the 3d view to have the parallel lines that represent the lapped siding (which it does now since this is my wall pattern) and also a light gray hatch in areas where the siding represents a 2nd color. Its almost as if I need a filled region that can apply itself to a workplane or a surface pattern that can be both. Its looking like it cannot be done in this release.   

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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:51:47 PM | unusual surface pattern

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Use a different material.... has a different base color and the model hatch.

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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:01:18 PM | unusual surface pattern

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Thats how I have it set up now and it works great if I'm doing a shaded view or a rendering, however i'm trying to achieve a similar look in a 3d perspective with the hidden line visual style.

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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:06:10 PM | unusual surface pattern

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I don't understand!  What is your problem?  You have a material that is assigned a color and a model hatch?  If so, that color and hatch will show in 3D views!

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Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21:18 PM | unusual surface pattern

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Yes thats correct, but you can also take a camera view or any 3d view and show it in "HIDDEN LINE" visual style. Thats the look I'm going for, I've attached a quick shot of a 3d view. The portion of the wall that is "popped out" will have a different siding color. If i turn Shaded visual style or do a rendering it'll look correct, however in the hidden line view you can see that it is white. After trying anything I could think of i posted in the forums asking if its possible to have a surface pattern that can show my siding pattern while having darker background to indicate graphically that the siding is a different color.

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Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:24:10 PM | unusual surface pattern

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Did you ever get any resolution with this issue?

 

 


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Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:02:40 PM | unusual surface pattern

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No, as far as everything I've tried to come up with I'm thinking this cannot be done. Since what I was trying to do was have a solid pattern with additional lines over it. Revit looks at the solid pattern as one pattern and you cannot have a separate pattern over it. Additionally you can create your own patterns however all lines within that pattern have to be the same color. As a work around I've just done lines at 45 degrees spaced somewhat close together and then have my parallel lines at whatever spacing for siding. This, although not ideal, does give the impression that this siding is a second color and if done as a model pattern works in 3d views in hidden line mode. All of our construction documents are black and white so this does work to show contractors where the second color may go. It would be a nice feature if you could assign a color or grayscale to different lines within a pattern, add it do the wish list I suppose.


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Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:11:40 PM | unusual surface pattern

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I actually woke up aruond 3 this morning, and thought of a way to do it. It is a workaround, but hey, most of revit is.

 

Anyway, The way we got it was by changing the drawing to "consistent colors" instead of hidden line. Then we made the material shaded appearance, (be sure to uncheck use render appearance" white. Then the ones we wanted to shade we made variation of grey. This allows us to control a light to dark pattern in our elevations, with the hatching. 

Two known drawbacks.

1. Your drawings will plot as raster images, so if needed crank up the dpi in your printer. (also increased file size). You may also lose lineweight in the vector -> raster transition, so be careful. Try using the outline ability in visual styles to compensate for this. 

2. Sometimes, elements recessed, say in a shadow, may not show up as their material color but as a shadowed color. I had this problem with 1 door frame....

The attached is a pdf of one elevation. The corsing pattern is shown. The pdf shows the rastering of the model, and the lighter lines, but once printed, you can barely tell the difference. "2b" is the shaded with consistent colors, and "3" is the hidden line. 



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