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Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:07:16 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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Hi all, I am a newer user to the website and have been using Revit off and on for about 1.5 years.

 

At my new job, we are about to switch from ADT to Revit 2011.  We need Typical Details transferred to Revit.  

 

My thought:  I want a Library that can be loaded into a Project as a Family or like a Family (I don't fully understand Libraries).  This will contain all Typical Details that pertain to say, Concrete, or Steel, etc.

 

In the Family browser, I would be able to expand Typical Details>Concrete>and drag and drop Typical Detail "zfnd10" onto my Typical Detail sheet.  Is this possible?  Does anyone have a better technique for compiling a Typical Details sheet?  What do you all know about Libraries?

 

Thanks for any information you can provide. 


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Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:32:19 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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You can place drafting details in a project then transfer them to any other project(s).  Insert from file (views).  You can insert one at a time or multiple.

 

We have set up several Resource files for items like Window/door details, toilet room elements, windows, doors, wall types, stairs and details.  For 2D elements, you just use the insert process.  For 3D elements, you can use the copy/paste.

 

Before you jump into this using your CAD details, read up on how to use / insert CAD files.  CAD files tend to really bog you down.  Because of this, most users work at converting 2D CAD files to true Revit 2D files before using them. You will learn that working in Revit 2D is far superior to CAD 2d.


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Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:51:43 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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WWHub:  The only use for the AutoCad drawings will be for backgrounds while re-drawing them in Revit.  Then the inserted AutoCad background drawing will be deleted.  I will not Partial Explode, or Full Explode them.  I agree with you, I want them all re-done in Revit.

 

So I gather that I should start a new Project and make Drafting Views for each Typical Detail?  If this is correct, then I would have a Project named "Concrete Typical Details" and etc.  I would then go into my Project - Insert from File>Insert Views from File and select the ones I wanted.  

 

Will this add these views as separate Drafting Views in the Project I Inserted them into?

 

Thanks for the information WWHub. 


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Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:32:34 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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You can use CAD drawings without re-drafting - you just have to clean them up in a junk project. 

In CAD

  1. Flaten 3D
  2. Explode all blocks and xref's
  3. Delete all hatches, polylines dimensions and leaders and very short lines.
  4. WBlock to a new file only what you want.

In Revit

  1. Create a drafting detail of correct scale
  2. Import your CAD detail from the new file
  3. Explode the CAD file (THIS IS A VERY BAD THING TO DO IN YOUR PROJECT FILE - THAT IS WHY WE DO IT IN A TEMPORARY FILE)
  4. Now - CAD lines are now new Revit linestyles named according to their layers.:
  5. Start with your heaviest line style in CAD.  Find that linestyle (assuming A-DTL-Heavy) and change those lines to the appropriate Revit linetype – repeat for each linetype.
  6. Make sure all CAD linetypes are gone.
  7. Convert all your text and clean that up.
  8. Add leaders to text notes
  9. Add dimensions
  10. Add filled regions.
  11. Click on File/Save to Library/Save Views and Pick your Details that you have cleaned up to save into your library.
  12. You can also transfer these views directly into your project.

 

When you import the views in your project, they will be named the same as in your resource file.  Just drag them onto your sheet.


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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:26:45 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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You can actually save most of the steps above by making sure layer names in CAD and Linestyles in Revit have the same name.

When bringing in a detail that was drawn correctly in Revit, explode it and you will see your lines instanlty match the linestyles in Revit. This save the slooooooooooow process of converting all your lines to revit lines.

Let Revit do it for you.


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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:51:42 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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This is in-correct. 

 

Lines from exploded CAD drawings are named by the layer they were on.  (This may be different if your CAD settings are not linetype by-layer and color by-layer.)  Also, the line style and color are also set according to the CAD drawing.


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Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:10:55 PM | Custom Library - Typical Details

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This is In-Correct...Let me explain.

In CAD I have layers named 01, 02 & 03 and they all have different line patterns. Cont, Hidd and Phantom

In Revit I have linestyles named 01, 02 & 03 and their patterns match what is built in CAD.

I then bring in my CAD detail, explode it and it instantly matches what it would look like if it were plotted in CAD. It does this because they have identical names.

If I had an extra layer in CAD that does not match what I have in Revit, I will notice it right away as it will have color instead of Black...but...

We built our Linestyle names to macth Layer names in revit so we dont have anything extra floating in Revit that needs purged out...unless some dingwad created an extra layer.

We have been doing this for 2 years now...never have had an issue. We bring in the detail, explode it and then annotate the detail. Some people say its an extra step...but it takes a whopping 5 seconds to import the detail and explode it.

Like I said, we have been doing this for a couple of years now and we have never and continue to NOT have any issues.

Many times our Archs or Engineers will figure out the detail in CAD (they know what layer to put things on) and once its done, we then take over...NEVER having to convert lines in Revit, we let Revit do that work for us. As I mentioned, we import..explode...then annotate...we never have to convert lines to Revit lines...


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