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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:49:09 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Hello everyone.

This is my first post, i recently got a new job that calls up abit of Reviting.  Im pretty good with all the basics but i'd like to take it to the next level.  I searched abit for an answer to my question but i felt this would be the quickest way to get an answer. 

I have a downloaded family object in my project and this object dosn't seem to have any ''materials'' properties.  Therefor, in my renders...the object is completely painted in some brown default colour.  Im using Revit 2009.  How do i add a material option to my object?thank you for your time.Matt 


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:56:55 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Did you check on the properties of the Family? in instance or type parameters?

 


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:07:22 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Well the ''edit family'' button dosnt appear as i click on the object.  I got as far as the element properties-->Type window.  But like i said...there is no ''material'' parameter.  Does its have something to do with settings-->object styles?

 thanks for you help!


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:26:38 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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"Well the ''edit family'' button dosnt appear as i click on the object" - sooo... File>Open and open that family...

what kind of "Family" is that?

 


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:31:40 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Apologies if i sound like a meganewb.  I opened the family on its own...and now the materials appear.  So i guess that solves my problem.  But why don't the material parameters appear in the element properties once its loaded in my project?


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:56:09 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Even after setting the ''render appearance'' material to what i desire.  Uploading the family into my project dosn't carry over its new properties.  The material still appears to be painted some default colour. 

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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:12:12 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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When you create a family the solids in that family can have a material hard coded to them inside the family.  This in my opinion is incorrect but dome 90% plus of the time.  If the person creating the object assigns a material in the family say called ' my material' then when the family is loaded into the project the material called 'my material' gets loaded into the project, but you as a user will have no idea of where that material came from or what it controls unless you open the family and investigate.

The proper method to create a family is to link the material parameter of an object within the family to a material parameter that is exposed to the user in the project.  This can be done on a type or instance basis.

There are plenty of tutorials, web clips etc that explain this and other family creation techniques.  Good family creation doesn't happen by accident in Revit it takes time to learn, dillagence to test and refine and get peer reviewed for usability.


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:20:24 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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thanks for the reply!  does it cause problems if the family i am using was created by someone else in a more recent version of revit?

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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:24:55 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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Revit has no backward compatibility as it is a database and the DB schema changes between versions.

So yes it is a problem if you try to take a 2011 version family and load it into a 2009 session of Revit.  Revit itself will not allow that to even happen to protect itself from database schema corruption. 


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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:57:28 AM | No ''materials'' properties on my object

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awesome. thanks for the clarifications. it was helpful


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