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I have an existing floor plan, phase filter Show New, phase existing. I am replacing doors with new doors in the exact same opening/location, just new door slab and frame. but on the existing plan the existing opening has an infill wall in it. I am confused as to why the existing plan is even registering or picking up on the demolition of the existing door and subsequent replacement in the next phase? See the attached image and please let me know if further explanation is needed . . . Thank you ahead of time for your help!
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infills go in where the removed item was located automatically, once you would place a new door it would go away because something would be in the space. i think you are getting infills showing up on existing plans is because you have it set to show new, existing. infills would be new because the are placed after the doors have been removed. making them new construction. things showing in views could be to your phasing set incorectly. below is how i set mine when we do renovations. on my existing plans i have it set to show complete, phase existing on my demo plans i have it set to show previous + demo, phase new construction on my new work plans i have it set to show previous + new , phase new construction
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Bimman- Thanks for your reply. I understand the concept of infill walls and why they are automatically placed when an item is demolished, but it doesn't seemd to be an issue of new verses exisitng. On the existing plan the doors that are demo'd but not replaced show correctly and the doors that are demo'd and then replaced have an infill wall across the opening and show the existing door (see image far right). On the demo plan all of the doorsare demo'd, but those being replaced show a demo'd wall across the opening and the demo'd door, those not being replace show correctly (see image in the middle). On the new plan everything shows correctly (see image far left). Basically, there is n infill wall automatically placed on the existing plan at the openings where the door is being replaced in the new construction phase. I set my phasing like you said and that didn't change anything. Please let me know if this helps. If not I am going to AutoDesk with this question.
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oops here is the attachent
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look to see if the door and walls are all the correct phase. under the element prop there is a phase created option. the walls going over your doors is not infill. infill will look like it does in the image to the far left. what you have going on to me looks like a wall goiing over top of the wall the door is, which is blocking the opening in view. that's the best i can think of. phasing took me a while to figure out and i still get confused at times. hopes this helps.
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Bimman- here are three images of the three items, wall, door and infill wall with each of the elelment property windows open. it doesn't seem like there is an additional wall over the wall with the door in it and all of the elements were created in the Existing Phase. I am going to forawrd these images to our Revit reseller and tech support company and see what they say. I will let you know . . . thanks for your efforts and time though . . .
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oops this attachment should replace the revit q4 I just uploaded, sorry I will get my head on straight eventually . . .
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1. Clipboard copy the existing door. Change the door to demo in new construction. Set the view to new construction (showing new or previous and new). The wall is infilled
2. Paste the door aligned to same place. The door will paste, but the wall is still infilled.
3. without changing zoom level, use the arrow keys and nudge the door left, right, up or down. Just nudge the door. The wall will cut. Nudge the door back to where it originally was. The wall cut will remain and the door will be in the correct location.
4. Say, "How odd."
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THis sounds like a phasing problem. First, try changing your filter to "show complete" or even "show previous and new" (If it is existing, there is no previous phase, obviously). Ensure the wall and door are both created in existing. Ensure the door is dempolished in "new construction" (unless oyu renamed it). Then you should have another plan which is set to phase new construction and the view filter is either show complete or show previous and new.
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I was having a similar issue with garage doors--a new door goes where an existing one is demo'd. There are 2 doors side by side, and one was showing correctly in the demo plan but the other was not showing up at all and an infill wall was in its place. After quite a bit of poking around, I found that the missing door had been set to the "New Construction" phase. Not sure how it happened, as it was correctly set to "Existing" / demo in the new construction phase previously. Thus I didn't think it was a phase issue, but that's exactly what it turned out to be.
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ihakki,
How Odd indeed! Thanks for the tip, it did exactly what I needed it to.
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